New baby for 40% tax payer: Any support?

nannytone_2

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

I haven't found DLA has many hoops and ESA can also be claimed by millionaires which can also be easy to claim. I found both easy and painless to claim on behalf of someone with what most would consider huge assets and before anyone asks why I claimed the answer is I was told I had to by the Court Of Protection. It's wrong, the individual doesn't need the money and yet is forced to claim it. Madness!

they would only have been entitled to cobts vased ESAnagd so would have been working for the past 2 full tax years.
unless they got into the support group they would only have received it for a year.
contributions based benefits have nothing to do with the amount of money you have, merely how much you have paid in.
i personally breezed through both ESA and DLA, but many have a far harder time, and not because they arent ill/disabled enough to be entitled.
more because they arent aware of how much detail;ed information needs to be included in the forms.
neither are easy benefits to claim unless you have either a condition that cannot be disputed ( i am blind... a simple examination of my retina's would make it obvious to any person with a knowlegde of the anatomy of an eyeball exactly why i am unable to see) or medical evidence that happens to meet the descriptors

shirlgirl2004

Yes the individual paid tax prior to disability but with huge assets is still able to claim £600 a month in DLA and ESA. I'm not sure how that's morally right. And yes the individual has indisputable disability so a lot of information isn't needed for the forms. It took 30 minutes to fill in the ESA form and that was because it takes me extra time to read & write as my eyesight is poor.

Georgiegirl256

nannytone wrote: »

disability living allowance and attendance allowance.
they are paid to help meet the additional costs of disability/long term illness.
it does seem wrong that millionaires can claim it, but what is the alternative?
if they are means tested, someone just above the threshold would be denied and it may only be the disability benefit they receive that enables them to continue working

Thanks, was just curious

I have to say nannytone, on this occasion, I agree with the things you're saying, and can see where you're coming from on this particular thread.

@ the OP, bit of doubles standards going on there, in one post you say if you had your way, there would be NO benefits, and yet you started a thread asking if there was any benefits you could claim!

nannytone_2

as they are getting conts based ESA there is no moral reason at all why they shouldnt. that is exactly the reason that NI contributions are made.
with regards to DLA, if it were to be means tested, it would need to be at a much higher level than other means tested benefits.

there are people that work full time, but have to pay out upto £100 a week in taxi fares, as this is the only way they can get to wo9rk.
even out of a decent salary, that amount of expense could quite easily make working unviable

shirlgirl2004

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Thanks, was just curious

I have to say nannytone, on this occasion, I agree with the things you're saying, and can see where you're coming from on this particular thread.

@ the OP, bit of doubles standards going on there, in one post you say if you had your way, there would be NO benefits, and yet you started a thread asking if there was any benefits you could claim!

I'm not sure how that's double standards. OP is aware there are many benefits around and wanted to know if there'd be any that his family would be entitled to. Like many people OP feels there shouldn't be so many benefits. However as he is paying for others to receive these benefits OP thinks he may as well get back a little bit of the tax he's paid. I feel the same way as the OP. I think benefits should be massively cut, however whilst they are on offer I will claim any I am entitled to which before you ask is none.

nannytone_2

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Thanks, was just curious

I have to say nannytone, on this occasion, I agree with the things you're saying, and can see where you're coming from on this particular thread.

@ the OP, bit of doubles standards going on there, in one post you say if you had your way, there would be NO benefits, and yet you started a thread asking if there was any benefits you could claim!

too many people seem envious/outraged at the amount of benefits SOME disavled people receive.
having a disability can be extremely expensive ( mine isnt too bad and is mainly transport related).
people are quick to think we are milking the system, but none seem to want to take our place ....

shirlgirl2004

nannytone wrote: »

as they are getting conts based ESA there is no moral reason at all why they shouldnt. that is exactly the reason that NI contributions are made.
with regards to DLA, if it were to be means tested, it would need to be at a much higher level than other means tested benefits.

there are people that work full time, but have to pay out upto £100 a week in taxi fares, as this is the only way they can get to wo9rk.
even out of a decent salary, that amount of expense could quite easily make working unviable

So it's morally right that someone that has hundreds of thousands of pounds in the bank can claim ESA and yet the OP shouldn't want to claim child benefit?

nannytone_2

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

I'm not sure how that's double standards. OP is aware there are many benefits around and wanted to know if there'd be any that his family would be entitled to. Like many people OP feels there shouldn't be so many benefits. However as he is paying for others to receive these benefits OP thinks he may as well get back a little bit of the tax he's paid. I feel the same way as the OP. I think benefits should be massively cut, however whilst they are on offer I will claim any I am entitled to which before you ask is none.

bevefits have been massively cut!
and even before they were cut, the only people getting huge pauments were families with children.

the OP said he would give up work and live on what i get!
but he didnt say he would accept my lack of sight as part of the deal.

as i said in my previous post, yes on paper it may seem a lot of money, but people with severe disabilities cant do anything cheaply

nannytone_2

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

So it's morally right that someone that has hundreds of thousands of pounds in the bank can claim ESA and yet the OP shouldn't want to claim child benefit?

i never said he shouldnt want to claim child benefit.

anyone who has paid the relevant conys is entitled to conts based benefit

shirlgirl2004

nannytone wrote: »

bevefits have been massively cut!
and even before they were cut, the only people getting huge pauments were families with children.

the OP said he would give up work and live on what i get!
but he didnt say he would accept my lack of sight as part of the deal.


as i said in my previous post, yes on paper it may seem a lot of money, but people with severe disabilities cant do anything cheaply

I call £600 a month a uge payment when the individual is getting all his care and accommodation paid for. Some people are so disabled that money doesn't help them to do things. Money does not take away the disability and with the best will in the world it doesn't make a jot of difference to this individual