turn off wi-fi-how to ?

albertross_2

A laptop next to your abdomen is next to quite a few important organs. The jury is still out on the risks, only long term studies are likely to find the answer, then it's too late.

There is little need for wireless in schools, so why take the risk.

random456

see, i bypass all this by smoking....

seaweasel

albertross wrote: »

A laptop next to your abdomen is next to quite a few important organs. The jury is still out on the risks, only long term studies are likely to find the answer, then it's too late.

There is little need for wireless in schools, so why take the risk.

Here's a tinfoil hat for you too. There have been concerns about laptops being used on your lap for long periods however this is due to heat as opposed to EM radiation.

I implore you to actually look at the evidence. The physics of the radiation we're talking about has nothing to suggest that 802.11 signals harm human cells in any way. Apart from the fact that this is non-ionising radiation we're talking about, both the frequencies used and the power involved makes it harmless. There's no conspiracy, you can investigate it yourself.

seaweasel

True, but the weight of evidence means that there's little or no cause for concern. There isn't a big conspiracy between Cisco and Netgear like there was with the tobacco industry. There is a point where you have to make a judgement on acceptable risk, and while you could live in an underground bomb proof bunker with a Faraday Cage, most people choose to just get on with their lives and avoid the things most likely to do them harm. Let's face it, it's more dangerous to smoke tobacco or ride a motorbike than use a wireless network, yet people choose to do even those things.

A good point someone made was regarding the MMR vaccine. Hysteria caused by one (now debunked) study has unnecessarily risked the health of thousands of children.

You can worry about a satellite falling on your head but common sense means that the vast majority of people don't worry about it all day and stay indoors (unless they have some sort of mental health issues).

David_B_2

volks400 wrote: »

after watching panorama last night i need to switch off my wi-fi from modem/router. its a Sweex 11g make, i cant seem to find any options to switch off wireless and it shows in my windows wireless network . im back on rj cables and dont need wireless anymore especially after watching panorama. i know ppl will have different views but im off wi-fi. so plz anyone help me switching it off.

What about your mobile phone, the microwave, LAN line phone, the TV, the computer, car fumes etc etc?

If you listen to what the media say I'll end up sitting in the dark and ever going out again.

There is not week goes by when something else is bad for you.

I stopped listening 2/3 years ago when they said eating apples could be bad for you! No joke, some highly paid moron linked it to cancer (I guess the 100 cig's a day didn't help).

superscaper

seaweasel wrote: »

A good point someone made was regarding the MMR vaccine. Hysteria caused by one (now debunked) study has unnecessarily risked the health of thousands of children.

Not just "risked the health" but has now actually literally cost lives. It isn't just the children who don't take the vaccine who are at risk but also children who can't take the vaccine for medical reasons (weakened immune systems etc) who require the people around them to have taken the vaccine (like a kind of buffer zone). All of it based on one person's proposition (who is even now like to be struck off by the GMC) not based on actual science and who had a biased interest based on financial backing. It was a perfect case of not understanding correlation and misusing anecdotal evidence.

Science has never said that wifi is safe. It can't. As I've said earlier science can't prove the safety of anything. Even water!!! But so far we don't even have a scientific mechanism of even explaining why wifi could be dangerous. So any preemtive action based on assuming it's dangerous is exactly the same logically as assuming that ethernet is just as dangerous as we also have exactly the same amount of evidence and theoretical mechanisms for how dangerous ethernet is.

albertross_2

Science could prove it was unsafe though, the question is has anyone done the tests and trials before it was launched on the public? Ditto mobile phones, ditto apple pesticides and waxes, ct scanners, dental x-ray machines, chilli powder, bse beef, sweeteners, salmon feed, lead paint, asbestos.

superscaper

albertross wrote: »

Science could prove it was unsafe though, the question is has anyone done the tests and trials before it was launched on the public? Ditto mobile phones, ditto apple pesticides and waxes, ct scanners, dental x-ray machines, chilli powder, bse beef, sweeteners, salmon feed, lead paint, asbestos.

But how much testing would you do? It's Russell's Teapot argument, you could test forever without proving it's safe. Everything is generally limited to be safe to the best of our knowledge at the time. In the case of mobile phones and wifi the emissions are well within the limits set by what we currently have tested to be safe based on those frequencies not being in the absorption peaks of human tissue according to current understanding of science. Many trials and tests have been done and found no evidence of harm so what would you suggest the procedure should be, wait until we know everything in science? I have a strange tingling sensation, it's either the wifi or my "going off topic" warning sensors

superscaper

Maybe we should all agree to disagree, the last time this was debated the thread went on for 14 pages.

albertross_2

I wasn't going to get involved in this one, for the same reason I didn't with the last, but I kept getting quoted, so got drawn in foolishly. I have no idea if it is safe or not, but think it is sensible to not use it in schools unless it is really necessary, just in case. Ethernet has been around in offices and schools for some time, so I would have expected symptoms if there are any to have surfaced by now. Wifi is pretty new, so the long term effects of exposure are still unknown.