REDUNDANCY on offer to every one else-its not fair

ILM_2

Sorry about this -it might seem rather callous compared to other peoples woes, but after 25 years of working with same employer I feel that everybody else is being offered redundancy except me. Due to my age and experience it would seem obvious that I am too expensive to get rid of. But with the massive changes to the company and managers I do not feel that it is the same company I joined all those years ago. More importantly I fear being TUPEd to another company in coming months. So I would really snap their hand off if offered VR, but i cannot afford just up and leave AND to miss the chance of a big payout. Equally I do not want to show my hand for fear of losing out. Do I just have to put up and shutup and be happy with having a job? (even though it is stressful and demoralising at present?) or is there some loophole regarding the change of company position over the years even though there has been no change to my contract?

marlot

I've had that a few times. Once they made my boss redundant, and half my team - but said I was just too valuable.

DOn't think that redundancy is necessarily a huge payout.

I don't think there is anything you can do.

Kayalana99

I was under the impression...but just what I've picked up sorry...that they can't just change your job role (depending on your contract) and they can only offer you the chance to apply for this new job..or take redunancy.

But...I might be complety off the wagon anyway.

mcfisco

Happened to me too
I was one of the employee reps during our redundancies 15 months ago, I was the only one to survive on my team.

In fact, everyone that was sat around that board room table from both sides, employee reps, HR director, managers, they've all gone now, just me left

I've been sort of hoping I'll go [22 years service] as I have other opportunities, I may well just walk.

ILM_2

Thanks McFisco ,
That must have been a horrible experience.

Takeaway_Addict

ILM wrote: »

Sorry about this -it might seem rather callous compared to other peoples woes, but after 25 years of working with same employer I feel that everybody else is being offered redundancy except me. Due to my age and experience it would seem obvious that I am too expensive to get rid of. But with the massive changes to the company and managers I do not feel that it is the same company I joined all those years ago. More importantly I fear being TUPEd to another company in coming months. So I would really snap their hand off if offered VR, but i cannot afford just up and leave AND to miss the chance of a big payout. Equally I do not want to show my hand for fear of losing out. Do I just have to put up and shutup and be happy with having a job? (even though it is stressful and demoralising at present?) or is there some loophole regarding the change of company position over the years even though there has been no change to my contract?

So why not offer to go on a compromise agreement? Why not work out what your voluntary RD would be and offer to go for a lower amount. Or is it the fact you are wanting to be greedy?

getmore4less

When a company is going down and shedding there comes a time when you need to become a lot less valuable than some of the others so your name moves up the list.

(There is always a list it helps to try and understand where you are on that list)

How you do this depends what is used to determine the pecking order, and what things are considered too extream so get you on a disiplinary

framauro

Sorry to hear that you are going through this, ILM. I've been in similar situation with a little less longevity in the same company - it feels rather unfair, especially when you've had enough and would happily leave.

In my company I believe that one's health (as in number of sickness days) is taken into account for many things, like bonus. It's worked out using a formula ("Bradford Factor" - look on Wikipedia) on the basis of frequency of sickness rather than duration of sickness.

On the scale, many frequent days off is potentially more "costly" than a single long time off.

It's quite possible (I don't know - this sort of thing isn't publicised) that, in my company, the number calculated using this formula is also used as a factor in determining one's eligibility for redundancy.

i.e. you take more sickness days => makes you higher up the list, perhaps?

Now, I am not condoning it, but it's possible that this could move you up the list??? I wonder, perhaps this whole redundancy thing is making you "really rather stressed"? :think:

Takeaway_Addict

framauro wrote: »

Sorry to hear that you are going through this, ILM. I've been in similar situation with a little less longevity in the same company - it feels rather unfair, especially when you've had enough and would happily leave.

In my company I believe that one's health (as in number of sickness days) is taken into account for many things, like bonus. It's worked out using a formula ("Bradford Factor" - look on Wikipedia) on the basis of frequency of sickness rather than duration of sickness.

On the scale, many frequent days off is potentially more "costly" than a single long time off.

It's quite possible (I don't know - this sort of thing isn't publicised) that, in my company, the number calculated using this formula is also used as a factor in determining one's eligibility for redundancy.

i.e. you take more sickness days => makes you higher up the list, perhaps?

Now, I am not condoning it, but it's possible that this could move you up the list??? I wonder, perhaps this whole redundancy thing is making you "really rather stressed"? :think:

And if you're wrong your giving the OP's employer an easier way of dismissing with no payout.....tut tut