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busy_mom_2

bloolagoon wrote: »

I agree - what I see is this. A partner on ESA (no children or older children) and their partner is added to their claim with no care responsibilities.

This was allowed on incap but one rule they did change for ESA, they have to have dependent children for ESA and JSA now.
One rule I never understand is mom has babay she can claim income support from 39 weeks up to baby is 15 weeks and also claim for a partner who is capable of work. After the 15 weeks they become a couple claim for JSA but why can the partner have 26 weeks without having to look for or seek work? Is paid paternity leave not 2 week?

bloolagoon

busy_mom wrote: »

This was allowed on incap but one rule they did change for ESA, they have to have dependent children for ESA and JSA now.
One rule I never understand is mom has babay she can claim income support from 39 weeks up to baby is 15 weeks and also claim for a partner who is capable of work. After the 15 weeks they become a couple claim for JSA but why can the partner have 26 weeks without having to look for or seek work? Is paid paternity leave not 2 week?

They can claim IS as a carer joint claim especially carers with no job seeking - I find this abhorrent if honest

busy_mom_2

Likewise.

If the benefit system was fair the right people would be entitled to the right money.
I find it hard to understand why there is a mentality that people have a right to this money, and it's isn't just the JSA or ESA, add in the rent, prescriptions, council tax, school meals, dentist.

krok

busy_mom wrote: »

I agree, I am not saying that moms cannot stop at home and look after their children if they so choose.
What I am saying is that if people are claiming benefits then they should not be able to claim more money because they have more children. It has to become can I afford to have any more children ethic.
Yes families fall on hard times but both parties have to work through it, if this means mom has to look for work for a bit cause dad has been made redundant, nothing stops mom giving up her job once dad is back on his feet.
If partner is claiming carers allowance can the other partner work a few hours whilst the children are at school or in the evening to help out?
Same scenario if one part of the couple is ill, if they are so ill they require care then carers allowance would be payable anyway.

Benefit has to become the last resort, not the alternative.

I wish so called advisers would stop scaremongering and concentrate on helping people into work. Years ago the job center helped the jobless back into work. However these days their only action is to try and sanction you.

Telling people what they can or cannot do, has to, and will stop. The so called politicians who are dictating and enforcing these rules only have a couple more years in power.

Universal credit will fail and the goverment knows it.

Untick the box. You know it makes sense.

busy_mom_2

krok wrote: »

I wish so called advisers would stop scaremongering and concentrate on helping people into work. Years ago the job center helped the jobless back into work. However these days their only action is to try and sanction you.

Telling people what they can or cannot do, has to, and will stop. The so called politicians who are dictating and enforcing these rules only have a couple more years in power.

Universal credit will fail and the goverment knows it.

Untick the box. You know it makes sense.

Why am I scaremongering? Why is it ok that people be allowed to be supported by others? to choose to stay at home after they chose to children they cannot afford to support but think its ok others do?

It is a person choice to claim a benefit, it is a persons choice to smoke, to drink, to eat what they like.
If you don't agree with the rules don't claim.

This country cannot afford to support people who feel it is their right to drain the system of as much money as they can and pay nothing back.

As I have explained many times and will say again, it is not the advisers job to find anyone a job, jobseekers need to help themselves, they get paid to look for work and advisers enforce they are doing so and offer help for those who need it.

And yes untick the box, please do so IT REALLY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE!!
You choose to untick, see CHOICE, you have a CHOICE If you do not agree with the DWP policy to claim JSA you have a CHOICE not to claim a benefit!!!!

I don't not like this government any more than you but universal credit will carry on, yes it may change as it goes along but things will never go back to how it was before.

krok

busy_mom wrote: »

Why am I scaremongering? Why is it ok that people be allowed to be supported by others? to choose to stay at home after they chose to children they cannot afford to support but think its ok others do?

It is a person choice to claim a benefit, it is a persons choice to smoke, to drink, to eat what they like.
If you don't agree with the rules don't claim.

This country cannot afford to support people who feel it is their right to drain the system of as much money as they can and pay nothing back.

As I have explained many times and will say again, it is not the advisers job to find anyone a job, jobseekers need to help themselves, they get paid to look for work and advisers enforce they are doing so and offer help for those who need it.

And yes untick the box, please do so IT REALLY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE!!
You choose to untick, see CHOICE, you have a CHOICE If you do not agree with the DWP policy to claim JSA you have a CHOICE not to claim a benefit!!!!

I don't not like this government any more than you but universal credit will carry on, yes it may change as it goes along but things will never go back to how it was before.

LOL.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I love robots.

busy_mom_2

krok wrote: »

LOL.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I love robots.

You are certainly strange, insulting and think so are so far above everyone else.

Troutwrestler

busy_mom wrote: »

Why am I scaremongering? Why is it ok that people be allowed to be supported by others? to choose to stay at home after they chose to children they cannot afford to support but think its ok others do?

It is a person choice to claim a benefit, it is a persons choice to smoke, to drink, to eat what they like.
If you don't agree with the rules don't claim.

This country cannot afford to support people who feel it is their right to drain the system of as much money as they can and pay nothing back.

As I have explained many times and will say again, it is not the advisers job to find anyone a job, jobseekers need to help themselves, they get paid to look for work and advisers enforce they are doing so and offer help for those who need it.

And yes untick the box, please do so IT REALLY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE!!
You choose to untick, see CHOICE, you have a CHOICE If you do not agree with the DWP policy to claim JSA you have a CHOICE not to claim a benefit!!!!

I don't not like this government any more than you but universal credit will carry on, yes it may change as it goes along but things will never go back to how it was before.

And do you earn more money than more obnoxious and rude you are? If passing judgement on others made you money you wouldn't need to work at all :rotfl:

Confuseddot

So its obnoxious to expect people to provide for their own kids ? Have i missed something ?

Troutwrestler

Confuseddot wrote: »

So its obnoxious to expect people to provide for their own kids ? Have i missed something ?

I also believe that people should provide for their own children, but being rude and obnoxious when you are in a position to try and HELP people is what I have an issue with