Becoming a teacher with no degree

whitegoods_engineer

pinkshoes wrote: »

The skills to teach is very important, but as is having a degree

Yeah like media studies for example, the degree anybody with a pulse can 'achieve'

ichii

I think it's important you think about how much of your time will be dedicated to your job, if you haven't already. It's obviously helpful that you get the time off in the school holidays (excluding a few days for planning) but with all the marking, planning etc. you have to do, you end up putting a lot of hours in which aren't between the typical 9-3 school day.

However, if you have thought about this, teaching can be extremely rewarding!

RichardD1970

Dunroamin wrote: »

Your link, which I read when you first posted it, doesn't address the issue of what qualifications someone with the DTLLS has before they use this for QTS in schools. A degree is still required or professional qualification in the case of someone teaching a practical subject like engineering or construction.

Don't know who is right or wrong, but surely you have just contradicted yourself? Degree OR professional qualification.

ViolaLass

TopQuark wrote: »

whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

Absolute krappe. You don't need 'life experience' to teach (for example) physics to secondary school kids, you need a knowledge of physics. This is the same for all of the academic subjects. I like to trust that we will never be opening up teaching posts to people who who don't have the required level of knowledge to educate future generations (as demonstrated by a degree).

I teach (maths) and have a degree and masters (in music). While I think my degree taught me a lot and my masters even more, I'm not convinced that they are the vital factor that make me a good teacher.

ViolaLass

pinkshoes wrote: »

Tootoo, teaching is manic, and even more manic when you have a child.

I'm currently doing my PGCE (and have a 2 year old), and work 60 hours a week planning lessons, marking etc... It's a never ending job, and the pay for the first few years is actually quite rubbish given the hours you have to put in!

It gets easier. I'm in my NQT year. The first term was hell but this term has been much easier (in comparison). I've even had one Sunday off! I'm getting better at reacting on the fly which means less desperate planning for every eventuality. PGCE is hard but you'll get there.

pinkshoes

whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

Yeah like media studies for example, the degree anybody with a pulse can 'achieve'

They wouldn't accept that on most good PGCE cources. You need a good degree in a more conventional subject related to what you want to teach.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

Dunroamin wrote: »

Your link, which I read when you first posted it, doesn't address the issue of what qualifications someone with the DTLLS has before they use this for QTS in schools. A degree is still required or professional qualification in the case of someone teaching a practical subject like engineering or construction.

Indeed. That's the point. No degree needed.

Thanks for illustrating my point so succinctly. :T

Dunroamin

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Don't know who is right or wrong, but surely you have just contradicted yourself? Degree OR professional qualification.

Some professional qualifications are the same level as a degree or even higher. It's hardly a viable option for the OP.

RichardD1970

Dunroamin wrote: »

Some professional qualifications are the same level as a degree or even higher. It's hardly a viable option for the OP.

To be fair, you were insistent that you needed a degree. You didn't mention any other relevant qualification.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

Dunroamin wrote: »

Some professional qualifications are the same level as a degree or even higher. It's hardly a viable option for the OP.

Actually, during the last 3 years when I have been teaching SEN teenagers, many of the people that are working in the schools and PRUs haven't got any higher level qualification. Some haven't even got teaching quals.

It's scary, and not right - however the fact remains that you do not NEED a degree to teach, there are other ways into teaching without having to go to uni.