Becoming a teacher with no degree

tootoo

Hi, I'm hoping for some advice or just clarity!
I'm currently a busy mum to 2 young girls and work part time.
I'd love to become a teacher or work in a school with children, either mainstream or specialised.
I don't have a degree. I decided against uni as I didn't know what I wanted to do.
I'm currently trying to weigh up my options career wise.
From what I understand - you can train for teaching following a degree or train as a TA and work towards the teaching qualification.
My current situation is that I can't apply for any full time work for a TA as I wouldn't be able to afford childcare and I wouldn't be able to for a good few years. So I thought about studying online for a degree but I'm worried how I will honestly find the time.
Sorry for the babble, any advise?!
Thanks

CKhalvashi

I did my degree whilst working for a Moscow cab firm full-time, and this was with young children.

How old are yours? OU could be a good solution for you, especially if yours are young enough to sleep through the afternoon or nearly old enough for school.

speakingofart

Hi,

You need to have a degree to teach, this isn't optional. It will need to be in a national curriculum subject usually, but not always. You first of all need to narrow down what you want to teach- secondary? primary? subject? and then research degree options. Think very hard about teaching (and I say this as someone who's just changed career) as it involves lots of preparation time at home and late nights, so it is difficult to juggle with children. If you want to know anything else, let me know. It's also worth mentioning that the current government want everyone going into teaching to have a 2:1 as a minimum and this can affect funding for training.

Katie

Funky_Bold_Ribena

speakingofart wrote: »

Hi,

You need to have a degree to teach, this isn't optional. It will need to be in a national curriculum subject usually, but not always. You first of all need to narrow down what you want to teach- secondary? primary? subject? and then research degree options. Think very hard about teaching (and I say this as someone who's just changed career) as it involves lots of preparation time at home and late nights, so it is difficult to juggle with children. If you want to know anything else, let me know. It's also worth mentioning that the current government want everyone going into teaching to have a 2:1 as a minimum and this can affect funding for training.

Katie

No you don't. You can do a DTLLS if you are already training people and then convert to QTLS to get a job in schools. However this is for people who are already doing training which the OP currently isn't. You need 150 hours of practice which needs to be logged and you have to have 8 observations.

speakingofart

I'm afraid you do:http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/faqs/~/link.aspx?_id=BD52823303624F65AA32692941D004C7&_z=z

People with QLTS have just been allowed to teach in schools, however my understanding is that this is geared towards more vocational/ fe type subjects which you need to have qualifications in already, e.g. hairdressing/ business.

Jobseeeker

im in scotland so hopefully this is same in england or wherever you live

you can actually do just a degree in primary teaching rather than a degree then teacher training

Funky_Bold_Ribena

speakingofart wrote: »

I'm afraid you do:http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/faqs/~/link.aspx?_id=BD52823303624F65AA32692941D004C7&_z=z

People with QLTS have just been allowed to teach in schools, however my understanding is that this is geared towards more vocational/ fe type subjects which you need to have qualifications in already, e.g. hairdressing/ business.

No - you don't...http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/careers/traininganddevelopment/qts/a00205922/qlts-guidance

Dunroamin

SOA is correct, the DTLLS is now accepted for QTS but that doesn't mean that you can, as a non graduate, teach in schools.

From http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/faqs/~/link.aspx?_id=BD52823303624F65AA32692941D004C7&_z=z

"You need a degree to be a teacher".

The DTLLS replaces a PGCE rather than a degree.

tootoo

Thank you for the replied. I was looking at childhood and youth studies.
There is a primary module you can select. I know its preferable for a nat circ subject, but the only one i could see with ou was english and although i don't dislike this subject, i certainly don't want to study at degree level.
My children aren't near school age yet, go to nursery while i work and dont sleep in the afternoon either. I thin in I'll have to think hard before making a decision.

Dunroamin

If you don't want to do a subject degree and you're aiming at primary teaching, Early Years study would be the better route to go down.

http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/qualification/pathways/q51-1.htm

Funky_Bold_Ribena

Dunroamin wrote: »

SOA is correct, the DTLLS is now accepted for QTS but that doesn't mean that you can, as a non graduate, teach in schools.

From http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/faqs/~/link.aspx?_id=BD52823303624F65AA32692941D004C7&_z=z

"You need a degree to be a teacher".

The DTLLS replaces a PGCE rather than a degree.

No they are not...yes you can teach in schools without a degree.

From my previous link...

Since 1 April 2012, further education teachers who have been awarded QTLS by the Institute for Learning (IfL) and are members of the IfL are recognised as qualified teachers in schools. This will allow them to be appointed to permanent posts in state maintained schools in England and they will be paid on the qualified teachers’ pay scale. They will continue to be recognised as qualified school teachers providing they remain a member of the IfL.

The OP wants to know if they need a degree and no they do not...if they have access to a different route which the DTLLS offers.