Claiming JSA but turnt down job trial

Amyylouiseox

I know it sounds bad but please dont judge at first. My adverser found me an apprenticeship which she said was in my town, looking into it i have to get 2 different trains & walk half hour! I then found out i get £72.50 for a week but travel alone is going to cost me around £20 a week! Which leaves me with 52.50 a week! Considering its an apprenticeship & i will be there for a year, i would rather focus on finding employment! As the money i will be on will work out less minus the travel. Will they stop my money for this? She hasn't offered me the job but rather come for a trial day.

BitterAndTwisted

Go to the trial day. You don't really have a choice if you don't want to be sanctioned. If you're lucky, you won't be offered the apprenticeship if you don't want it.

Saturnalia

Are you sure about the wage? I thought apprentice NMW came to around £100 a week, still a shockingly low rate but a tad better than £72.

Carlos77

very short-termist view there, if you get offered an apprenticeship id grab it with both hands, long term it could get you a well paid career and qualifications, its well worth the inconvenience! When I took my trainee job, i ditched a job that was 5 miles away, for one that was 30 miles away, and took a pay cut! now a few years later i earn more in a morning than my previous job paid me in a week.

RichardD1970

Carlos77 wrote: »

very short-termist view there, if you get offered an apprenticeship id grab it with both hands, long term it could get you a well paid career and qualifications, its well worth the inconvenience! When I took my trainee job, i ditched a job that was 5 miles away, for one that was 30 miles away, and took a pay cut! now a few years later i earn more in a morning than my previous job paid me in a week.

I would agree, IF it was a proper trade/craft apprenticeship and not one of these so called apprenticeships with the supermarkets etc. which (IMHO) are just a scheme to massage the figures and provide cheap labour. And judging by the pay I suspect it is the latter.

Jobseeeker

yeah what kind of apprenticeship is it? Because i've heard of apprenticeships for unskilled jobs (eg admin apprenticeships) which is really just an excuse to pay less.

but if it is for a proper trade then snap it up

out of interest how many miles away is it?

fishybusiness

I then found out i get £72.50 for a week but travel alone is going to cost me around £20 a week! Which leaves me with 52.50 a week

I was glad of my apprenticeship. It paid me £52.00 a week, I had to move away from home to take it up as I couldn't afford to travel each day, nor could my parents afford to pay for it.

Lodgings were £28.50 a week, train to work for 5 days were about £9, plus a bus home and back at the weekends, can't remember the cost, and I had to eat at work too.

Why not judge? The way the world is, if you are offered an apprenticeship, and it gives you a year of work, which is valuable experience, plus a wage, take it. You may not get another offer, plus as others have pointed out, it could lead to bigger and better things.

Seems like you have a good deal, all considered.

ValHaller

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

Go to the trial day. You don't really have a choice if you don't want to be sanctioned. If you're [STRIKE]lucky,[/STRIKE] a grumpy miserable git on the day you won't be offered the apprenticeship if you don't want it.

Fixed your post

gibson123

Jobseeeker wrote: »

yeah what kind of apprenticeship is it? Because i've heard of apprenticeships for unskilled jobs (eg admin apprenticeships) which is really just an excuse to pay less.

but if it is for a proper trade then snap it up

out of interest how many miles away is it?

An admin apprenticeship is not unskilled! You work towards a VQ which is equivalent to an HNC at college. You are expected to develop a lot of skills including advanced ICT and Customer Services. To get the same qualification and experience at college, you would maybe get a bursary for your fees, and would have to find another source of income to live on.

I don't understand, the attitude that unless you are doing an apprenticeship in a trade then it is worthless. Only about 7& of this country is employed in a trade, if we don't have apprenticeships and training schemes for young people in all sorts of alternatives, then they will have no choice but dead end jobs or college.

OP if you are offered a decent apprenticeship with a company then jump at it, the minimum you get paid is £2.68 in your first year, then NMW for subsequent years.

Pennywise

I think it's a little unrealistic in this economic climate to expect a "local" job. Can't understand why people have such a downer on administration anyway - I'm now a fully qualified accountant after starting out filing and making tea in a poxy accountancy practice. My friend started out as an admin assistant under the old YTS scheme and is now the director, running the local Chamber of Commerce.

My son has to take two buses and then has a 20 minute uphill walk and that's just to get to secondary school!

What do you want? A job on your doorstep? A well paid job even without experience? Given the economic climate, I'd seize the opportunity with both hands and go for it. Heaven knows when something else may come along.

eym

"An admin apprenticeship is not unskilled! You work towards a VQ which is equivalent to an HNC at college. You are expected to develop a lot of skills including advanced ICT and Customer Services. To get the same qualification and experience at college, you would maybe get a bursary for your fees, and would have to find another source of income to live on."

Only if you are lucky enough to get a level 4 apprenticeship. The vast majority of admin apprenticeships are at a far lower level and will result in a vocational qualification and GCSE or A Level equivalent.
That said, I would still take the job if I were the OP.