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  • soolin
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    That's why I don't believe it is difficult to spot , 34 bids made, 100% of them to a single seller.

    You don't need buyer ID's to spot a shill, this example proves it.
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  • harveybobbles
    harveybobbles Posts: 8,973 Forumite
    edited 5 May 2013 at 10:54AM
    soolin wrote: »
    That's why I don't believe it is difficult to spot , 34 bids made, 100% of them to a single seller.

    You don't need buyer ID's to spot a shill, this example proves it.


    And then spend 10 secons looking thru the sellers feedback for someone with (2) an you find this bidder : http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/chfordyboy who happens to live local LOL
  • George_Michael
    George_Michael Posts: 4,251 Forumite
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    I've just sent a message to the seller in question informing them of my e-mail to Trading standards to report their illegal shill bidding activity.

    Lets see what happens to their listings!
  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    soolin wrote: »
    That's why I don't believe it is difficult to spot , 34 bids made, 100% of them to a single seller.

    You don't need buyer ID's to spot a shill, this example proves it.
    The problem is that many people aren't aware of shill bidding and/or are usually under the false impression that if it did exist, eBay would actively prevent it.

    eBay naturally plays it down, talking about commitment to trust and safety and turning a blind eye - this example certainly proves it.

    But the fact that it is routinely so blatant eBay's website - and yet eBay are the only one who apprently can't spot it... and therefore are (regrettably ;)) taking a cut of the illegal shill bid profit.
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    And then spend 10 secons looking thru the sellers feedback for someone with (2) an you find this bidder : http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/chfordyboy who happens to live local LOL
    Local enough to use the same pc, perhaps? :)
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
  • George_Michael
    George_Michael Posts: 4,251 Forumite
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    Well, no reply from the seller in question but all the bids have been removed and the item is no longer for sale.
    The shill bidder is also "no longer a registered user".

    So a result of sorts.
  • Kite2010
    Kite2010 Posts: 4,308 Forumite
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    Ebay likes shill bidding in a way, as it boasts their profits with closing sale fees
  • Reef1234
    Reef1234 Posts: 42 Forumite
    Try to avoid bidding twice on an item in advance, if you are already the highest bidder. You're effectively inviting the owner to shill bid the item up.
  • 1sttimer_2
    1sttimer_2 Posts: 728 Forumite
    Well Ebay have noted my complaint and acted on it. The seller is no longer selling! Whether they are able to re-open a new account under another name and details, I'm not sure. Action has been taken against the other person too. But I'm not allowed to know what that action is - which is fair enough I guess.

    Because I've paid for the item, I'm not cancelling it, but now I've had a message from the seller saying that the man behind the counter at his post office says my address is not registered - hmm - so this man knows all the registered addresses in the UK? I don't think so. So now I don't know if I'll receive the item or not - especially since he/she will have been contacted by Ebay to stop selling because of a complaint - I don't think they will have told them it was from me! Which means I'll have another one to make if I don't get my item.

    I like the idea of the auto sniper so I may go down that route if I buy in future. I usually am a last minute buyer but in this case I didn't think I would be available at the end so put in an automatic bid, but then circumstances changed and I was, which is why I upped my bid, and then (unfortunately) checked out the bidding on it - and so ended up in this position.

    Oh well, once burnt, twice shy as they say!
    "It is always the best policy to speak the truth-unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar." - Jerome K Jerome
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