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CSA not taking money out of my bank??

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skje12
skje12 Posts: 17 Forumite
edited 25 April 2013 at 2:54PM in Child support
My OH has 2 children from his previous marriage which we pay child maintenance for. We have been paying CM for over a year as we were giving PWC £100 a week for the 2 children. The motheR decided to go through CSA as she thought that she could have more money from us. She had a shock when it came back that we should only be paying £15 a week and not £100!!
But I have had nothing but trouble from the CSA!! In the beginning, it took them 6 months 2 sort out what actual figure the CM should be set at. Now i am currently paying off 6 months worth of arrears!! :mad:

Now they have stopped taking money out of my bank, the PWC has now stopped all contact with children as no money has been paid through no fault of our own only the CSAs.

Has this happened to anyone else??

Also i was wondering if they CSA took into account of PWC cohabiting??
PWC can live off their wage (if they have 1) tax credits, child benefit, plus new partners income plus NRP income!!

Hows that fair??

I have 2 children of my own so i know that children can be expensive but surely if the PWC are cohabiting AND go on to have more children, the amounts should be reduced??
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  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    It's really annoying when people come out with this kind of thing.

    Two people make a child.

    Those two people are responsible for that child.

    If they split they are still both responsible for that child.

    The pwc having more kids or a new partner does not lessen the nrps responsibility to THEIR child.

    NOTHING lessens your responsibility to children you create.

    As for the rest,has your oh contacted the csa to find out what is going on?
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
  • skje12
    skje12 Posts: 17 Forumite
    Of course we contacted the CSA as soon as we seen the money wasnt taken. We have never avoided paying CM to the 2 children. We were giving her £400 a month at one point where we should of been paying £60!!

    I never mentioned responsibilities, i just questioned the fairness of the system.

    Right now, the mother of the 2 children has to buy out my OH from the matrimonial home for the sum of £20k. She refuses to pay up!
    There is another man cohabiting with her (which she denies even though they are engaged and have another baby) and my OH's children call him Daddy as the mother allows this!!??

    The mother has stopped contact because no money has come here way. Maybe i should have a talk with her about 2 people making a child and responsibilities for them children.

    People always take the mothers side and blame fathers when they are totally innocent!!
    Its the mothers that play god with their childrens lives and stops them seeing their father whenever they feel like it.

    you have 1 mother and 1 father!....simple
  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    No,some mothers do and some fathers do.Both need whacking with a stick!

    Obviously,cutting contact is disgusting.If they are calling her partner 'dad' though I would question if money was the cause.But that is a separate issue to maintenance.

    What did the csa say in regard to the money not being taken?Has there been an error? Has she closed the case?
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
  • skje12
    skje12 Posts: 17 Forumite
    I rang them as soon as i noticed cos normally they take it on the date but when i rang first they said that someone was dealing with this case and that they would ring me back. But didn't have no call back.
    I rang again the following day thinking they'd just forgotten to ring me back, explained the situation and was told exactly the same thing!
    I did think maybe she had cancelled it but when i asked her she said she hasn't cancelled and has been ringing CSA every month since she started with them ://

    Maybe a private agreement would be best for both parties??

    Recieved a letter from them this morning to contact them so maybe this will sort it. But on there, the arrears are completely wrong
  • kevin137
    kevin137 Posts: 1,509 Forumite
    I would suggest taking the extra money and seeing a solicitor regarding court ordered contact....!!! And the same regarding the house as well, if she will not pay up then force a sale...!!!

    At the end of the day, the house will have to go if she doesn't have the money, and then she will lose her home, a fact of life that many people with daily...

    Maybe a letter from a solicitor will kick her up the backside and make her realise she can't have it both ways...!
  • skje12
    skje12 Posts: 17 Forumite
    You are spot on Kevin137 :beer:

    I did seek legal advice and they suggested that because no amicable solution had been made in the last 5 years ( this is how long its gone on for) the only way would be to go to court where the house would be sold and my OH would have 50% of the sale.
    We didn't want to go down this route because it is the childrens home and wouldn't want to take it away from them just because their mother is so bitter towards their father.

    The contact issue really bothers me as i have 2 children which are their half brothers and sisters but my children dont know the other 2 children enough to have a bond. This is because the mother stops contact whenever she feels like or when she hasnt got no money!!

    She works and has a good job, claims single parent tax credits (even though shes cohabiting), has another man living in the home which the children call daddy and shes trying to change the childrens surnames!! I have proof of this in the local newspaper as the little boy goes to rugby and the surname has been changed to her partners surname!!??

    But she still expects money form my OH
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,543 Forumite
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    Please understand that if you go anywhere near a court and suggest that your OH does not have to pay because the mother has another partner, does not allow contact etc, you will be slaughtered.

    The issue of contact and CSA are completely different in law and neither affects the other.

    So your partner needs to get onto wikidivorce and needs to contact Families needs fathers. He may find a sharp solicitors letter and a offer of mediation results in proper contact arrangements; or he may have to go to court for a contact order. If so, he can use a cheaper MCKenzie friend from FNF rather than a solicitor or represent himself.

    Start by writing to the CSA, copy in your MP and the mother, complaining about their failure to collect the money.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • guruchelles
    guruchelles Posts: 159 Forumite
    RAS wrote: »
    Please understand that if you go anywhere near a court and suggest that your OH does not have to pay because the mother has another partner, does not allow contact etc, you will be slaughtered.

    The issue of contact and CSA are completely different in law and neither affects the other.

    So your partner needs to get onto wikidivorce and needs to contact Families needs fathers. He may find a sharp solicitors letter and a offer of mediation results in proper contact arrangements; or he may have to go to court for a contact order. If so, he can use a cheaper MCKenzie friend from FNF rather than a solicitor or represent himself.

    Start by writing to the CSA, copy in your MP and the mother, complaining about their failure to collect the money.

    BIB - This. This is so important to remember, otherwise you're into the territory of paying for the child's company. Children become something to be bought and sold.
  • kevin137
    kevin137 Posts: 1,509 Forumite
    skje12 wrote: »
    She works and has a good job, claims single parent tax credits (even though shes cohabiting), has another man living in the home which the children call daddy and shes trying to change the childrens surnames!! I have proof of this in the local newspaper as the little boy goes to rugby and the surname has been changed to her partners surname!!??

    And again another reason, for her to legally change the name, your OH would have to agree...

    SEEK LEGAL ADVICE...!!!
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    How did you manage to afford to pay £100 a week when you were only assessed at £15? That's a massive difference! Is your OH self-employed?
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