PCN - No ticket issued

wicknwild

Hi

Just received a PCN in the post for a contravention: 62. According to the notice, the traffic warden was in the process of issuing a ticket when I drove off. Should I challenge and request photographic evidence?

Thanks

Stroma

Sounds like a council ticket so you of course need to challenge it. But can you just confirm its penalty charge notice before further advice is given. Thanks

pogofish

Yup - Many councils now have the extra legislation in place to let them issue tickets for drive-offs and via CCTV. So that old chestnut does not apply anymore.

Photo evidence is the bottom of the evidential chain here and normally only admitted to clarify minor technical matters, so there is little point in demanding it at this stage - Ther is a lot more cruical stuff to be considered first.

You still have all the normal routes to challenge this and if it is a council ticket, Pepipoo is the best place.

wicknwild

I can confirm the notice received in the post is a Penalty Charge Notice and I can also confirm it was a civil enforcement officer who "observed" the vehicle. Doesn't TFL have to prove the car was parked illegally?

Hi
pogofish what do you mean by Pepipoo is the best place?

Thanks

Stroma

wicknwild wrote: »

I can confirm the notice received in the post is a Penalty Charge Notice and I can also confirm it was a civil enforcement officer who "observed" the vehicle. Doesn't TFL have to prove the car was parked illegally?

Hi
pogofish what do you mean by Pepipoo is the best place?

Thanks

He means that https://www.pepipoo.com is the best place for advice for penalty charge notices, they have a number of users experienced in appealing to the councils and adjudicators.

pogofish

wicknwild wrote: »

"observed" the vehicle. Doesn't TFL have to prove the car was parked illegally?

They do indeed but the paper trail involving the patrollers contemporaneous notes and the record of the ticket issue machine, the ticket itself and several other formalities all carry much greater weight and must be all present and correct before they will even look at any photos - and if any of them fail, no amount of photos will help revive the case.