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  • coinxoperated
    coinxoperated Posts: 1,026 Forumite
    Pickle49 wrote: »
    Wonder if any of you knowledgeable lot can help me....... I have been offered a new job, of which I am very excited about. At the moment, I have a formal offer of employment but it is dependant on a satisfactory reference from my current employer ( who is devastated that I'm leaving and is being very frosty towards me, I'm hoping that he will do the right thing and provide me with a good honest reference ) and a criminal records check.

    I don't think I have a criminal record, but 30 years ago I skipped a train fare and got caught. I don't remember police being involved but a railway official said I had broken some railway byelaw and that I would get a letter with a court date. I got the letter sometime later saying that I could turn up at a particular magistrates court on a particular date and time or I could just pay a fine ( at the same magistrates court ) within 21 days or some other time scale like that. I obviously can't remember all the details as it was so long ago but I'm now really worried that if I don't declare it to my prospective new employers it will make me look like a liar if it shows up or am I alerting them to something that needs not to be brought to their attention.

    This job involves working with the elderly so I believe that they are entitled to look into my background in this way. I know it all seems a bit ridiculous but I'm so worried that this job offer may be retracted and I have handed in my notice at work and don't want to be out of work as I have debts to pay ( that's another forum:) ). I know I made a good impression at the interview and I know they liked me ( they said so, it's not me being big headed ) but I feel like I'm in a permanent state of worry that my boss may be vindictive and write a not very good reference or that this criminal records check will throw a spanner in the works. I'm not normally a worrier but this has got my head in a spin.

    Any advice ? ......please xx

    To be blunt. Yes. You do.

    When you work with vulnerable people / young children they undertake an enhanced DBS (New name for CRB). This shows up EVERYTHING.

    I suggest you admit it to them asap as them finding out at a later date and you haven't declared will definately cut you out of the running.
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    I don't see why you can't just write down that you believe you were given a fixed penalty notice for not having a rail ticket in 1983, and you are unsure if this counts as criminal or not. All that shows is honesty, a fairly minor offence in the dim and distant past and an imperfect memory, none of which are going to lose you a job.

    But agree never hand your notice in without an unconditional offer. My last enhanced CRB took months to come back ,there was a mistake on it.
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  • Richard53
    Richard53 Posts: 3,173 Forumite
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    If I had a job candidate who mentioned the offence (with a brief explanation of the circumstances) when it was obviously very minor, I would be impressed with their honesty. Finding even a small thing that was not disclosed would put a small question mark in my mind.

    But I'm almost certain that this will not be on your record, and that it would not count much against you if it was.
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  • paulineb_2
    paulineb_2 Posts: 6,489 Forumite
    To be blunt. Yes. You do.

    When you work with vulnerable people / young children they undertake an enhanced DBS (New name for CRB). This shows up EVERYTHING.

    I suggest you admit it to them asap as them finding out at a later date and you haven't declared will definately cut you out of the running.

    They paid a fine 30 years ago, Im not sure thats the same as having a criminal record.
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