Removal from SA

50Twuncle

I was on SA last TY - For various reasons - this TY, and for the forseeable future, my income is fixed and I wish to return to PAYE

I emailed HMRC through the usual message system and received a response "use our webmail to contact the self assessment helpline direct - giving your details"
Try as I might - I cannot find the link to email the self assessment hotline
Does anyone have a working link/email address ?

Am I right in thinking that HMRC are not trying to get people OFF SA any longer ?

Davide123

You need to call them, not email.

If your circumstances will allow ie you won't owe any tax, then they will be happy to take you off the list

zygurat789

21Twinkle wrote: »

I was on SA last TY - For various reasons - this TY, and for the forseeable future, my income is fixed and I wish to return to PAYE

I emailed HMRC through the usual message system and received a response "use our webmail to contact the self assessment helpline direct - giving your details"
Try as I might - I cannot find the link to email the self assessment hotline
Does anyone have a working link/email address ?

Am I right in thinking that HMRC are not trying to get people OFF SA any longer ?

First of all SA and PAYE are not mutually exclusive, you are not on one OR the other.
If you have employed income. then your employer HAS to deduct PAYE.
If HMRC has sent you a SA then you have to return it, completed.

In my experience they are unlikely to accept your word, over the phone, on your income but they will accept a completed return.
So, once you are in their club, you stay in it until they chuck you out.

50Twuncle

zygurat789 wrote: »

First of all SA and PAYE are not mutually exclusive, you are not on one OR the other.
If you have employed income. then your employer HAS to deduct PAYE.
If HMRC has sent you a SA then you have to return it, completed.

In my experience they are unlikely to accept your word, over the phone, on your income but they will accept a completed return.
So, once you are in their club, you stay in it until they chuck you out.

How can someone be on SA and PAYE ?
Surely - if someone (as I have been for 12 months) has the option to log in to their on-line HMRC tax account, and has been asked to send in their tax returns last year - they are on SA ?
My problem is that I thought, last year, that I would be working as a consultant (as well as my "normal" paid income (ie 2 * pensions and a part time job) - so I asked to be put on SA - but the consultancy failed to pay any money - so I am back to fixed income !!
That said - HMRC have not, yet sent me a form to fill in...

zygurat789

21Twinkle wrote: »

How can someone be on SA and PAYE ?
Surely - if someone (as I have been for 12 months) has the option to log in to their on-line HMRC tax account, and has been asked to send in their tax returns last year - they are on SA ?
My problem is that I thought, last year, that I would be working as a consultant (as well as my "normal" paid income (ie 2 * pensions and a part time job) - so I asked to be put on SA - but the consultancy failed to pay any money - so I am back to fixed income !!
That said - HMRC have not, yet sent me a form to fill in...

SA is merely another name for a tax return.
People who are employed have to fill in a tax return if, for example, they have rental income. Employed people have tax deduicted by PAYE.
The self assessment tax return (to give it its full name) even has a section for employment income and tax deducted by PAYE.

Have you checked your on-line account to ensure that the dates have not changed and 2013/13 tax return is there waiting to be filled in.

CRISPIANNE3

I like being registered for SA because I do not pay tax and any tax deducted through my savings is claimed back. I know I could fill out a form to get my tax paid gross but I do not want my bank knowing too much of my personal affairs.

50Twuncle

When will they send me the paperwork - if I need to fill in any ?
I think that last year - it arrived on 5th April ....???

zygurat789

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Have you checked your on-line account to ensure that the dates have not changed and 2013/13 tax return is there waiting to be filled in.

They rarely send out paperwork these days.

50Twuncle

zygurat789 wrote: »

QUOTE
Have you checked your on-line account to ensure that the dates have not changed and 2013/13 tax return is there waiting to be filled in.

They rarely send out paperwork these days.

Right - I have just logged in and it says "HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) sent you a notice to complete a tax return on 06 Apr 2013 but have not yet received it."

I HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED IT - THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NOT YET
RECEIVED IT !!!

zygurat789

21Twinkle wrote: »

Right - I have just logged in and it says "HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) sent you a notice to complete a tax return on 06 Apr 2013 but have not yet received it."

I HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED IT - THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NOT YET
RECEIVED IT !!!

You need to click on "File a return" which is in green just below "not yert received it" just like you would have done last year.

You have recieved it this is it.

Do I have to remind you that it is impolite to SHOUT especially when isomeone is trying to help you and it is you who can not repeat something you must have done last year.

50Twuncle

zygurat789 wrote: »

You need to click on "File a return" which is in green just below "not yert received it" just like you would have done last year.

You have recieved it this is it.

Do I have to remind you that it is impolite to SHOUT especially when isomeone is trying to help you and it is you who can not repeat something you must have done last year.

Sorry - I wasn't shouting at anyone on this forum - it was aimed at HMRC !!
Last year - I paid an accountant to do it for me..