London Red Route Breakdown – What would you do?

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KTF wrote: »

Generally when there is 'strange behaviour' you should get out and see whats causing it. Not keep driving around thinking 'this is a bit odd...'

But if you stop on a red route and can't find anything wrong, you're probably getting a fine in the post?

Whether that's true or not I don't know (don't have to deal with those things where I live, I'd check if I were ever dumb enough to plan a trip into London) but with all the cameras around these days it's certainly something that people would be thinking about.

Richard53

henrygregory wrote: »

The roads I travel on are notoriously tight and we have to share them with those dangerous people called motorcyclists.

I think you will find that a motorcyclist has far more to lose by hitting a car or pedestrian than a car or van driver does. We spend our time avoiding contact with other road users, not finding ways to hit them!

I think you are right not to want to change a wheel by the side of a busy road, especially on the offside, where you would be working next to the flow of traffic. If the AA or RAC come to help you, they will be working with a massive van with flashing lights parked upstream and protecting them from the hazards. Traffic volumes are not what they were 30 years ago.

londonTiger

Stooby2 wrote: »

You won't get a fine for breaking down on a red route. If it's one of the really major routes you'll find the TFL cameras will often pick it up fairly quickly and get a police red route unit to run down and see what the problem is. They may tow you off to a side road if that's possible, or wait and fend off if you can make repairs yourself, i.e. change your tyre.

not sure about that. they will probably just fine you and then ask you for proof you broken down. which a diy repair will get you in troble cos you wont have pperwork of the incident. i think it best to take a picture of the car with the flat tyre just in case

dacouch

londonTiger wrote: »

not sure about that. they will probably just fine you and then ask you for proof you broken down. which a diy repair will get you in troble cos you wont have pperwork of the incident. i think it best to take a picture of the car with the flat tyre just in case

Red Route fines are dealt with by TFL.

It would be very unusual to receive a fine for breaking down on a Red Route providing you remain near your car and ideally raise the bonnet.

If you leave the area the camera operators or officers will assume you've parked your car and issue a ticket. You can still appeal the ticket but may need to provide evidence of a break down.

Similar rules apply to most London councils, it's basically to stop people pretending to break down so they can park and go off somewhere else.

londonTiger

Ok I don't know about the strict CCTV monitoring of that. I would have thought it would be all done by machine like speed cameras and they'll have a few stills as evidence which isn't enough to determine whether you're broken down or parking.

In which case you would need some paperwork to proove you were indeed broken down.

Anyway, i dont have any experience in this, so I'm just speculating.

Jamie_Carter

londonTiger wrote: »

Ok I don't know about the strict CCTV monitoring of that. I would have thought it would be all done by machine like speed cameras and they'll have a few stills as evidence which isn't enough to determine whether you're broken down or parking.

In which case you would need some paperwork to proove you were indeed broken down.

Anyway, i dont have any experience in this, so I'm just speculating.

They take a series of photos, and as far as I know they manually check them. So if you pull over, put your hazard lights on, and then start looking around your vehicle, then it will be obvious to them that you think you have broken down.