PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Tenant breaching tenancy agreement

I'm a newish landlord and would appreciate some advice/comments from those of you with more experience please.
I have a tenant who is obviously smoking in my property despite there being a no smoking clause in her tenancy agreement which I pointed out to her & despite my reminding her on at least 2 other occasions!
I was in the flat yesterday to do some maintenance & it absolutely stinks of cigarette smoke. I'm aware that some of it may be coming from her clothes & personal belongings but I strongly suspect she is smoking in the flat.
Her tenancy is due to expire in June but is there anything I can do before then?
The flat is in Scotland so this may be subject to slightly different legislation.
«1

Comments

  • I would want them out to be honest
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • sharpy2010
    sharpy2010 Posts: 2,471 Forumite
    If she's paying the rent I'd probably ignore it. If this is the worst you have to worry about, then its not worth worrying about.
  • Werdnal
    Werdnal Posts: 3,780 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Depends what you want to achieve - if she is a good tenant in other ways, then evicting might land you with a bad one. Does she pay regularly and in full, does she keep property otherwise in good repair, or is she causing you other issues?

    Not sure of the rules and regs in Scotland, but fairly sure that if there is additional damage at the end of tenancy, and you need to redecorate and deep-clean to remove smoking smell/damage, you can deduct cost from deposit and/or sue for further damages, if you can prove she has specifically broken the non-smoking clause, and you are financially disadvantaged as a result.

    However, any such damage costs would obviously have to be adjusted to account for the length of tenancy and how much "residual" value is in the decor, furnishings and carpets, before you would need to replace them anyway.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    mumlady1 wrote: »
    ....Her tenancy is due to expire in June but is there anything I can do before then?
    The flat is in Scotland so this may be subject to slightly different legislation.
    Artful is the Scottish expert, but I doubt it.

    And anyway, is it worth it? The place will already be 'smokey' and need freshening/painting whenever she leaves, so probobly easier to wait till June and evict then via whatever the Scottish system is.

    And claim damages via however the Scots do it.
  • lollipopsarah
    lollipopsarah Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    just make sure they leave the flat as found - jolly good clean up.
    xx
  • Better_Days
    Better_Days Posts: 2,742 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Be aware that the smell of cigarette smoke can be a devil to get rid of from soft furnishings and carpets especially. It depends on how long the T has been smoking in the property, how heavily and what she has been smoking.

    It will be all the more noticible after the property has been shut up for a couple of days. I would explore a professional 'deodourising' service so you can get a quick turnaround on your rental. You will need to check but I would think you could deduct this from the deposit as the need for the service has arisen from the T breaking the TA.

    Bear in mind that the smell of cigarette smoke may put off future tenants, especially those whose health is poor or those with young children.

    Make sure you compy with whatever the Scottish rules are so that your tenant knows that you wish to end the tenancy in June.
    It is a good idea to be alone in a garden at dawn or dark so that all its shy presences may haunt you and possess you in a reverie of suspended thought.
    James Douglas
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Onions!

    Work in my car - don't know if they'd work for a whole house.
  • mumlady1
    mumlady1 Posts: 264 Forumite
    Thanks to everyone for your replies :-)
    Made me laugh G_M:rotfl:Am I supposed to cook her a meal with the onions or just throw them at her :rotfl:
    Artful Dodger - yes, deposit is protected. Her tenancy agreement is from 19th March - 19th June so shorter than the normal 6 months.

    As a couple of people have suggested, I had thought about letting her agreement run until June & then get the place professionally cleaned & obviously this would come off her deposit.

    As much as I would like her to leave now, it's probably not worth the hassle & the expense and by the time the paperwork is sorted & notice given etc her tenancy will be up anyway.
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    Is she definitely leaving in June?

    If not I don't think you can start eviction proceedings til 6 months have gone by.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    mumlady1 wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone for your replies :-)
    Made me laugh G_M:rotfl:Am I supposed to cook her a meal with the onions or just throw them at her :rotfl:

    Cut onion in half and leave in car (resting in open clingfilm or whatever) It absorbs the smoke and leaves the car smelling... well... temporarily of onion, but then sweet as ever.

    I find if I carry a smoker, the smell from their clothes lingers for ages in the car, but this sorts the problem.

    Whether it would work in a house, and where the smoking actually took place in the house, and how many onions you'd need, I have no idea!
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.4K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.8K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.2K Life & Family
  • 258K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.