P60's for 2012/13 - when are they due out? (on JSA)

brightonman123

hoping for a tax rebate, as worked part of last year, total earnings under tax allowance..need this to check figures!

sammyjammy

I think they have to be issued by 31st May.

I was right http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/tcmanual/tcm0118100.htm DWP is currently classed as your employer for these purposes.

bigboybrother

brightonman123 wrote: »

hoping for a tax rebate, as worked part of last year, total earnings under tax allowance..need this to check figures!

If you are talking about the one for the Contributory JSA & if they are treated the same as Contributory ESA (both are treated as taxable income), they generally come out in early June.

Tax repayments can take up to 3 months to arrive making it about September'ish before you see any money for 'run of the mill' cases.
I have known it to take up to December but that is generally limited to cases where questions have to be asked by HMRC.

I would add as a warning that P60's for these benefits sometimes are never issued. I have been on Contributory ESA since September 2009 and in all that time only had one for the year to the 5th April 2010!

To complete my tax returns I had to work from the amounts paid into the bank.

MissSunshine

You won't receive a P60 if you weren't employed on the 05/04/13. This happened to me last year so I just waited for HMRC to issue my repayment, which I received by cheque in July, so 3 months wait.

sammyjammy

brightonman123 wrote: »

hoping for a tax rebate, as worked part of last year, total earnings under tax allowance..need this to check figures!

If you handed in your P45 to DWP when you made your claim and you are still currently claiming then they should pay your tax rebate automatically.

sammyjammy

MissSunshine wrote: »

You won't receive a P60 if you weren't employed on the 05/04/13. This happened to me last year so I just waited for HMRC to issue my repayment, which I received by cheque in July, so 3 months wait.

I don't know why you didn't receive a P60u but DWP do issue P60u for those that are claiming and receiving benefit on the 5th April each year.

bigboybrother

sammyjammy wrote: »

I don't know why you didn't receive a P60u but DWP do issue P60u for those that are claiming and receiving benefit on the 5th April each year.

Not in every case they don't.

I have been in receipt of Cont ESA from Sept 2009 to now and never received the 2010/11, 2011/12 and don't expect the 2012/13 one either.

Horseunderwater

bigboybrother wrote: »

Not in every case they don't.

I have been in receipt of Cont ESA from Sept 2009 to now and never received the 2010/11, 2011/12 and don't expect the 2012/13 one either.

Are you certain it has not been changed to income related ESA now? I though that all Cont ESA were now ended after a year from April last year, so your should have stopped then I should have thought. And I don't think they send them out for IR ESA as it is not normally needed.

richard9991

Horseunderwater wrote: »

Are you certain it has not been changed to income related ESA now? I though that all Cont ESA were now ended after a year from April last year, so your should have stopped then I should have thought. And I don't think they send them out for IR ESA as it is not normally needed.

if you are in support group dont you get contribution esa indefinate or until you are found fit to work or placed in Wrag after reassessment

bigboybrother

richard9991 wrote: »

if you are in support group dont you get contribution esa indefinate or until you are found fit to work or placed in Wrag after reassessment

Yes that is correct. I have been in the SG since Jan 2010. If it had been changed to Income Based, then I have paid tax on it at 20% for the past 3 years and want it back!!!

Horseunderwater

Here's how it works re taxable income(normally that is).
Contributions based benefits like incapacity benefit,JSA & ESA are paid gross with no tax deducted as the DWP does not do that and tax only becomes due on these if you have another income source that is taxable that then takes you over and above the personal tax free allowance which for year just ended was £8105 for most people. This year just started it is £9440.
However, means tested benefits like Income Support, IR ESA (both sorts) and JSA are not classed as taxable income in the main although there are exceptions to this as one or 2 others have stated in the past. So normally you should only get either a P45U or a P60U for any contributions based benefit when claim stops or at tax years end normally due out by 31st May, but often gets received in June. Depends on how DWP batch the P60's up to post. Last year mine arrived in early May. This year is more complicated as I am on IR ESA but for 6 months was on contributions ESA in Support group, so not even sure I will get one, but since they did not send me a P45U out in Oct for that 6 months I am hoping that a P60U will follow for the contributions bit shortly. We shall see. If not I have my bank statements so can obtain what I need from that.