Will the Last Lib Dem please remember to switch off the lights

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Fella wrote: »

Um, duh. She won three elections. She was very popular. One of the most popular PMs ever going by the only measure that counts i.e. the UK Public's vote.

wilson won 4 elections 64 66 and 74 twice,no state funeral for him was there
as for being popular she divided the country and does so even in death

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pqrdef wrote: »

Paddy Ashdown said the election result was a disaster for the LibDems and he was right.

But they had to try the coalition. Otherwise people just decide that a vote for the LibDems is a vote for a hung Parliament is a vote for another election in 6 months, so what's the point.

However, if the junior partner in a coalition can't exercise a more effective veto, we can only conclude that there's no role for a third party and we're stuck with a two-party system.

The best thing the LibDems could do now would be to merge with Labour and change it from within. God knows Labour needs somebody to give it some sense of direction and purpose.

dont forget that the lib dems were a merger between the liberal party and the sdp,and where did the sdp come from?you got it ...labour

JSR

I'm a lifelong Liberal Democrat voter and supporter and can't see that changing - short of another true liberal party coming to the fore.

I'm not happy with quite a lot of what this government has done and what LD MPs have voted for but it is a coalition and the other party is rooted in conservatism. In that situation you have to be pragmatic, do what you can and let some things go to keep the peace but that doesn't mean you surrender your principles. Neither am I convinced Nick Clegg has managed the coalition to maximise Lib Dem political capital but if that opinion is right it doesn't mean Clegg is a bad person just that he was not as good at the game as Cameron.

To the person who said no Lib Dem voter expected their vote to help Cameron into Number 10. If you didn't expect that you weren't listening. It was clear to me before the election that Nick Clegg would negotiate first with the party with the greatest number of seats and did not rule out any kind of deal.

PaulF81

I guess we will be postponing the funeral then....

wotsthat

PaulF81 wrote: »

I guess we will be postponing the funeral then....

It is a little premature - best to rebook it for May 2015.

Moby

Fella wrote: »

Um, duh. She won three elections. She was very popular. One of the most popular PMs ever going by the only measure that counts i.e. the UK Public's vote.

The 'public' fell for her after the Falklands...if that war hadn't taken place she'd have faded away. People always forget that now.

Moby

woodbine wrote: »

wilson won 4 elections 64 66 and 74 twice,no state funeral for him was there
as for being popular she divided the country and does so even in death

Exactly...she appealed to the bigotry in all of us! Not a good quality to have. She was stabbed in the back by her own and spent the remaining time of her life being bitter about it. On Wednesday some of those that got rid of her will be preening themselves in their morning suits around her coffin...rank hypocrisy!

N1AK

PaulF81 wrote: »

I guess we will be postponing the funeral then....

Really is too early to say. I still support them but clearly a giant swathe of their support base has felt betrayed. This may mean that even if we do see economic recovery before the next election (normally a boost to the governing parties) this could stop them getting those votes again.

There will be people out there who's views align most closely with the Lib Dems; who don't like Labour or the Conservatives and yet because of 'tuition fees' or the coalition will not vote Lib Dem.

Personally I think this could hurt the conservatives quite badly. The majority of Liberals offended by this (or the coalition full stop) won't be transferring votes to the conservatives. Conservative leaning Lib Dems were the minority and will likely still vote liberal.

Additionally with UKIP becoming a 2nd tier party the conservatives ability to fight for the middle-ground against Labour is limited because Cameron is having to battle for 'traditional' conservative votes; a problem Labour don't have.

pauletruth

was labour thought of the lib dems last time. sadly im now snp. won't make any diffrence here in shetland