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Struggling to wrap my head around Buy to Let

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  • Gaaraz
    Gaaraz Posts: 136 Forumite
    edited 10 April 2013 at 4:12PM
    Very interesting, thank you! I've got so much to think about before plunging into this.
  • SuzieSue
    SuzieSue Posts: 4,109 Forumite
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    As far as I understand it most buy to let mortgages are repayment only. This means you are relying on the house price on being worth more when it is eventually sold. The interest only repayments are much less than repayment.

    Get Martin's guide to Mortgages?

    OP, I think that you might be getting confused by the above.

    There are two main types of BTL mortgages:

    Interest Only and Repayment.

    With interest only, you can set off your whole mortgage payment against your rental income.

    With a repayment mortgage, your mortgage payment is divided between repaying part of the capital you have borrowed and the interest element. You can only set off the interest element of your mortgage payment again your rental income.
  • vectistim
    vectistim Posts: 635 Forumite
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    All mine are on repayment - that means that my LTV is now down to around a third. Doubtless I could have bought more sticking with interest only and leveraging everything as much as possible but that is a much riskier strategy.
    IANAL etc.
  • layfs
    layfs Posts: 16 Forumite
    I also understand that if it is just one property you have and the rental income is less than 10k per year and earning no additional money you do not need to declare it and only are due capital gains tax if it is rented for over three years.
  • jennifernil
    jennifernil Posts: 5,739 Forumite
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    I have never heard that, do you have a link to where it says that?
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,304 Forumite
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    As far as I understand it most buy to let mortgages are repayment only
    Not true. Interest-only dominates the BTL market.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • dotchas
    dotchas Posts: 2,484 Forumite
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    layfs wrote: »
    I also understand that if it is just one property you have and the rental income is less than 10k per year and earning no additional money you do not need to declare it and only are due capital gains tax if it is rented for over three years.

    Really? Where did you read that?
    :j I love bargains:j
    I love MSE
  • 00ec25
    00ec25 Posts: 9,123 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2013 at 9:49PM
    layfs wrote: »
    I also understand that if it is just one property you have and the rental income is less than 10k per year and earning no additional money you do not need to declare it

    this is dangerously wrong rubbish and could result in a very costly lesson paying penalties to HMRC

    you are required to declare even £1 of rent let alone £9,999 of rent

    you seem to be confusing the fact that if your total income (including net PROFIT from any rental business) is less than your personal allowance then, and only then, would you have no tax to pay. This has nothing to do with rental income, its simply a factor of whether you are above the personal tax free allowance of £9,205 (NOT £10k) or not
    layfs wrote: »
    and only are due capital gains tax if it is rented for over three years.
    this suggests you spend a lot of time repeating half truths without actually understanding anything yourself. This is ONLY true if you have lived in the property as your MAIN OR ONLY home, if you have never lived in it as a home then is again a load of codswallop
  • geoffky
    geoffky Posts: 6,835 Forumite
    Good luck..You are going to need it.. Being a landlord is one of the hardest ways to make a small amount of money i know of..
    It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
    Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
    If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
    If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
    If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Gaaraz wrote: »
    Very interesting, thank you! I've got so much to think about before plunging into this.

    Don't plunge into property. It's an highly illiquid business. Exiting is often a messy affair. As the tenant has rights to quiet enjoyment of the property. So arranging viewings and proceeding with a sale really means a vacant property. So all that previously earnt profit. Gets eaten away very quickly. More so if there's a mortgage to discharge.

    Do your sums first.

    As with any business. The key is a having a business plan. Majority of those that fail do so for this very reason.
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