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What Did Thatcher Ever Do For Us?

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Kennyboy66 wrote: »
    I'm no fan but most recessions are unavoidable as they are mainly worldwide events.

    Not what the current government would have us believe, all one parties fault apparently.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 9 April 2013 at 11:50AM
    Reduced taxation apparently?

    She came to power as I started work and I can't recall ever payer less tax overall it has only gone up. My economics lecturer was right on that score, I will no doubt die a some point too.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    Kennyboy66 wrote: »
    A false hope I would say.

    I don't think many people in the south still appreciate the epic scale of job losses in many northern cities during the couple of years either side of 1979.

    In Speke (part of Liverpool) there were 8000 (Triumph / British Leyland plant 3500 and Dunlop 2500 being the main ones) redundancies in 1978 & 1979 before Thatcher was even elected.

    The population of Speke was roughly 20,000 at the time.

    Another 40,000 jobs went in Merseyside in the first 18 months of Thatcher being elected.


    And there were loads of wars before the falklands one.
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    The British car industry was uncompetitive and costing the nation a fortune in subsidies. At some stage the north needs to stand up on its own two feet, innovate and support itself instead of living and do mouth. Leeds and Manchester seem to be doing just this.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Kennyboy66 wrote: »
    A false hope I would say.

    I don't think many people in the south still appreciate the epic scale of job losses in many northern cities during the couple of years either side of 1979.

    In Speke (part of Liverpool) there were 8000 (Triumph / British Leyland plant 3500 and Dunlop 2500 being the main ones) redundancies in 1978 & 1979 before Thatcher was even elected.

    The population of Speke was roughly 20,000 at the time.

    Another 40,000 jobs went in Merseyside in the first 18 months of Thatcher being elected.

    Start a new thread? There really is no good reason to hijack this one.

    We know that there was mass unemployment under Thatcher. We really don't need to rehash that here.

    Bored now. Off to bed.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Reduced taxation apparently?

    She came to power as I started work and I can't recall ever payer less tax overall it has only gone up. My economics lecturer was right on that score, I will no doubt die a some point too.

    You obviously didn't earn enough :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • lemonjelly
    lemonjelly Posts: 8,014 Forumite
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    Kennyboy66 wrote: »
    I'm no fan but most recessions are unavoidable as they are mainly worldwide events.

    The point I'm making is more a question as to why she's held in such high regard?

    There were actions she could/should have taken to avoid/limit the damage done.
    In addition they sold off vast swathes of public property, and wasted the proceeds. At a time when the treasury coffers were awash with oil revenues they could have done what Norway did and invest it for the future. Instead they blew it on tax cuts for the well off, while stiffing the poor.
    It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    dryhat wrote: »
    And there were loads of wars before the falklands one.

    You must be impressed that she won that battle on her own, I wonder if they will erect a memorial to her on the Falklands, maybe the inscription could be something like this ;)
    I know I have but the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart of a king, and of a king of England, too; and think foul scorn that Galtieri or Argentina, or any nomark of America, should dare to invade the borders of my realms.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • lemonjelly
    lemonjelly Posts: 8,014 Forumite
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    dryhat wrote: »
    And there were loads of wars before the falklands one.

    The Falkands was a worthy cause but even then her British Nationality Act of 1981 had previously stripped the Islanders of British citizenship.
    It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    I'm not arguing about the rights and wrongs of the falklands war.

    My falklands remark was in response to kenny saying that there were redundencies and unemployment before maggie came to power.
    It's just like saying there were wars before she came to power.

    It's a pointless argument.

    Just because she didn't have a hand in previous events, doesn't mean she can't be judged on the events that did happen on her watch
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