What Did Thatcher Ever Do For Us?

Matt1977

Maggie Thatcher allowed my parents to buy their council house.

Unfortunately, as a consequence, I'm stuck in the rental trap and saving up for a deposit will be an uphill struggle.

Discodee

dryhat wrote: »

You have not got a clue mate.
(or should I say the person you copied and pasted that from hasn't got a clue)

You are just another maggie lover quoting from hearsay rather than experience.

And I must admit, in theory, "thatcherism" does sound brilliant if you were told the story today.

I'd say it was the other way round. The original post is correct.
It is a STATISTICAL FACT that maggie was the best peacetime Pm we have had. if only Blair and Brown had had half her wisdom, drive and balls, the country wouldn't be in the absolutely awful position it is in now.

EVERYONE got richer not just the rich When I was a kid (I am 50) no-one had a colour tv and no-one holidayed abroad. Therewas one car per family and kids walked to shool.These days near enough everyone has sky, a colur hd digital tv, a dvd, a pc, a games console and a mobile phone. many people go abroad and many families have 2 or more cars. None of them bar a car are necessities, yet most "poor" people have at least one of each.

A 17 yr old told me last week he would vote Labour because "His mate told him they give money to the poor." That's typical of many labour voters! Not a clue. Blair and Brown threw money at everything but didn't correctly manage it. It they'd won the last election we'd have likely been in the state Greece and Cyprus are in by now. This very forum will tell you YOU CANNOT SPEND MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE!!!!!!!! Brown actually hid the extent of his overspending so by the time The Alliance came to power we were so much in debt and so overrun by immigrants there is little they can do really. i don't think even maggie could sort their mess out. So be prepared for cuts all the way as they try and salvage it. BUT labour will probably win the next election because people are too daft to realise cuts HAVE to be made (Again look at this forum- if you are in debt you have to make changes, cut back and spend less) THEN we are in big trouble, because we will end up bankrupt, believe you me!!!remember this when it happens! Plus the NHS will no longer be there, because we wont be able to afford it. If only there was a Maggie type politician about NOW to try and sort it out.

Discodee

Matt1977 wrote: »

Maggie Thatcher allowed my parents to buy their council house.

Unfortunately, as a consequence, I'm stuck in the rental trap and saving up for a deposit will be an uphill struggle.

How is that as a consequence??

And surely it will be your inheritance eventually (hopefully not for a long time) You don't get that from a rented home.

Discodee

Oh and I am not a Maggie lover! She just is the best PM we have had in my lifetime. Everyone else has been diabolical, both parties!

Discodee

grizzly1911 wrote: »

It wasn't just those that didn't bother with education.

In the same way that we are churning out graduates now without enough decent job opportunities. The bar just got raised and the holes in the trawl net wider.

You can't compare graduate opps now with then. Then people got degrees in decent things. These days people do degrees in all kinds of useless subjects. How many do them in art and design? How many jobs in that field are there exactly????? Do you know you can even do a degree in john Lennon???? It is partly because of all this rubbish that tuition fees were introduced?? In my day the top 10% of the country, academically went to Uni. These days many people with degrees can't even use basic English grammar and can't spell your and you're correctly!!!!

Discodee

dryhat wrote: »

That is the con that all these maggie cheerleaders forget when talking about privatisation now.

"Mrs. Jones" down the road who had a chance to invest and thought it was great that buying shares would enable her to take part in this new way of doing things ended up shafted.

My dad bought several BT shares and profited enormously from them. They were the first he ever bought. i think he got some in british gas after that. he bought other shares also, after that which did really well. until he lost thousands while labour were in power!!!!!

Discodee

ukcarper wrote: »

They would be OK now they could use the glow from their I phones.

Till the charge ran out!

Love it!

ukcarper

Discodee wrote: »

My dad bought several BT shares and profited enormously from them. They were the first he ever bought. i think he got some in british gas after that. he bought other shares also, after that which did really well. until he lost thousands while labour were in power!!!!!

Yes because government sold them to cheap

Matt1977

Discodee wrote: »

How is that as a consequence??

And surely it will be your inheritance eventually (hopefully not for a long time) You don't get that from a rented home.

I'd rather be in a position to buy a house under my own steam, or rent much more cheaply be it a private or social housing, rather than rely on their house/estate as an inheritance.

grizzly1911

Discodee wrote: »

You can't compare graduate opps now with then. Then people got degrees in decent things. These days people do degrees in all kinds of useless subjects. How many do them in art and design? How many jobs in that field are there exactly????? Do you know you can even do a degree in john Lennon???? It is partly because of all this rubbish that tuition fees were introduced?? In my day the top 10% of the country, academically went to Uni. These days many people with degrees can't even use basic English grammar and can't spell your and you're correctly!!!!

I wasn't comparing degrees back in the 70s+ early 80s to now.

Many people had a decent education back then but still couldn't get work.

We now have many many more going to Uni, because that is a stepping stone required these days and many come out with little in the way of prospects. It isn't just enhanced education. The volume of decent jobs with real prospects still isn't there in sufficient numbers.

I totally agree that many subjects aren't worthy of degrees and many jobs shouldn't need a degree level education to undertake them. Many roles could be achieved by on the job training and technical accreditation in parallel.

We have just made the kids go through another layer of education for what? Cynically I might say sucking 0.5m (??) or so off the unemployed register at any one time.