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UKPC & Compnay car

Hi all,

Some advice please.


1) Where you were ticketed ie England/Wales - England
2) When you were ticketed ie - Last week
3) The name of the company helps - UKPC
4) Whether you have contacted the company already - only to ask about appeal process
5) At what stage you are at, for example debt collectors writing to you. -no letters yet.
6) Whether you are the Registered Keeper of the vehicle - no it's a company car (leased)

so returned to the car 20 minutes before expiry time on ticket. it's a car park where you need a ticket but the 1st hour is free. retuned after just 40 minutes.

ticket from UKPC stuck on windscreen saying "parked without clearly displaying a valid pay and display ticket"

I was in posession of a vaild ticket, it was on the dashboard. only issue was that it had flipped over when the door was closed.

Now i've read all about ignoring the letters etc which I am happy to do, but as it's a company car the registered keeper is the lease company. problem here is that if i pick up any "fines/parking tickets" etc then the lease company will charge me.

so where do i stand? do i contact the lease company, explain the situation and tell them i am dealing with it?

also - is it worth appealing? i'm guessing not, however i have all the evidence i need to fight this, valid ticket, time called ukpc which was within the 1 hour etc.

many thanks

Comments

  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    In this you need to do a soft appeal to get them writing to you

    name
    address
    date

    Hello UKPC

    I would like appeal your parking invoice xxxx dated xx/xx/xxxx , I paid to park on this date and enclosed is a copy of ticket. I therefore deny any liability to your company at all.

    If you reject my appeal I require that you provide me with a popla verification code within 35 days of this letter/email , per the BPA Code of Practice.

    I have nothing further to add at this time , and look forward to the confirmation of the cancelation of this invoice, or the popla code to appeal independently.

    Love and kisses

    Not a mug
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Brilliant, thank you! I will put something simliar together.

    I'm guessing that they will then contact me directly and not the lease company therfore avoiding the need for the lease company to do anything??
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Exactly you are hooking them to you, once they know who was driving they cannot go back to the lease company or your employers. You can then decide whether to ignore them or appeal and go through popla
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Kite2010
    Kite2010 Posts: 4,308 Forumite
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    Contact them to get them writing to you, saves having to deal with dodgy lease companies paying it on your behalf adding on an admin fee.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Kite2010 wrote: »
    Contact them to get them writing to you, saves having to deal with dodgy lease companies paying it on your behalf adding on an admin fee.

    Very sound advice. And it's not just dodgy lease companies either !
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    Stroma wrote: »
    In this you need to do a soft appeal to get them writing to you

    name
    address
    date

    Hello UKPC

    I would like appeal your parking invoice xxxx dated xx/xx/xxxx , I paid to park on this date and enclosed is a copy of ticket. I therefore deny any liability to your company at all.

    If you reject my appeal I require that you provide me with a popla verification code within 35 days of this letter/email , per the BPA Code of Practice.

    I have nothing further to add at this time , and look forward to the confirmation of the cancelation of this invoice, or the popla code to appeal independently.

    Love and kisses

    Not a mug


    That's a good example of a short appeal to try to get a POPLA code.

    Alternatively, here's a new example of a very long 'legal challenge to a PPC' template letter that a driver/keeper can use all or part of if they prefer this sort of approach:

    http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/appeal-letter/

    It looks complicated but much of it makes sense even to a non-legal trained eye like mine and most posters on here. And people can use it as a 'pick and mix' sort of template to put PPCs to proof of stuff that they are unlikely to want to show POPLA - so will likely then see their fake PCN cancelled by POPLA!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    That looks like that barrister letter some time ago, are they basing it on that I wonder?
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Stroma wrote: »
    That looks like that barrister letter some time ago, are they basing it on that I wonder?


    Yep it's based on Tim Kevan's barrister's blog. :)
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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