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Which clock do you operate/work by?

Picture the scenario...

You clock in at the start of your shift & clock out at the end. This clocking in/out machine has a timer on it.

You then have a big clock in the office set to another time - which is 10 minutes BEHIND the clocking in/out machine.

You then have the boss' watch/time .... which is set to whatever boss wants it to be set to.

If you operated off the office clock, you would start your shift 10 minutes early (so work 10 minutes for no pay), and you would finish 10 minutes 'late' - again meaning you'd work 10 minutes for no pay, totalling 20 minutes every day.


Before anyone suggests that it may be a mistake, don't bother - it certainly isn't.

Is it unreasonable to start AND finish work by the time on the clock machine?
If your boss pointed to the office clock & said you're leaving early, you have 10 minutes left to serve, could you get away with leaving by the clock machine, or could they bounce you out on disciplinaries, even though they've crafted the clocks to do you out of pocket?
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  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    If you operated off the office clock you would start 10 mins late and finish 10 mins late so no extra work at all. The only time you will be working more or less time would be if you started on one clock and finished on another. Personally I'd use the official clocking on/off clock as that records the length of shift.
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  • torbrex
    torbrex Posts: 71,340 Forumite
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    You go by the clock that is used to pay your wages and it is up to the employer to set them all the same if there is any arguement.
  • Nine_Lives
    Nine_Lives Posts: 3,031 Forumite
    paddedjohn wrote: »
    If you operated off the office clock you would start 10 mins late
    Correct - d'oh.

    Well in that case then you'd be late - & they'd be down on you like a ton of bricks.

    What i'm asking is, if things 'got messy', could you get into any bother by refusing to finish by the office clock & instead operating 100% by the clock that pays your wages?
  • Takeaway_Addict
    Takeaway_Addict Posts: 6,538 Forumite
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    if u are getting paid by a clock then surely you are getting paid for these extra 10 minutes?
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    Nine_Lives wrote: »
    Correct - d'oh.

    Well in that case then you'd be late - & they'd be down on you like a ton of bricks.

    What i'm asking is, if things 'got messy', could you get into any bother by refusing to finish by the office clock & instead operating 100% by the clock that pays your wages?



    No, what you said was that if you operated by the office clock you would start 10 mins early and finish 10 mins late so would be working 20 mins for free. You also said that this isn't a mistake when I fact it is.
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  • Nine_Lives
    Nine_Lives Posts: 3,031 Forumite
    if u are getting paid by a clock then surely you are getting paid for these extra 10 minutes?
    IF you got paid by the minute
    paddedjohn wrote: »
    No, what you said was that if you operated by the office clock you would start 10 mins early and finish 10 mins late so would be working 20 mins for free. You also said that this isn't a mistake when I fact it is.
    har-har (unless you're not having a jab over my mistake..?).

    When i said it's not a mistake, i was referring to the big differences on the clocks. It's been said that the office clock is behind so that we'll work later (AND 10 minutes for free).

    My post however as you've pointed out, was a mistake about that bit.
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    Depending on how long you have worked there I would be working to the official time clock that records your hours, ie the clocking on clock
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • Nine_Lives
    Nine_Lives Posts: 3,031 Forumite
    I personally have been there quite a number of years, though i'm not just asking this for myself really - as co-workers have wondered/asked the same thing, but nobody has looked into it.
  • Phil_68
    Phil_68 Posts: 140 Forumite
    Next time your boss says you're going too early as you have 10 mins to go, just tell him you will be using the time continuem vortex portal that you mortal phased through a dimensional universe where the world is 10 mins in front.

    Phil.
    Life - It's only a once in a lifetime experience.
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    Phil_68 wrote: »
    Next time your boss says you're going too early as you have 10 mins to go, just tell him you will be using the time continuem vortex portal that you mortal phased through a dimensional universe where the world is 10 mins in front.

    Phil.


    Too late, she used that excuse tomorrow.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
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