Britannia Parking Charge Notice

Guys_Dad

thereis wrote: »

Thanks Stroma. It actually occured in Scotland, so I dont know if the law differs here from England and Wales?

Wait on. POPLA? 35 days from PPN applies in England, but is it same in Scotland or can PPC actually say 35 days from this letter? And they have said working days.

Need to check out Scottish regs here, although being Members of the BPA, they have agreed tho follow their COP.

thereis

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Did he watch the Watchdog clips, particularly the one with the paper aeroplane?

He cannot want to pay this surely, it is NOT a fine, does NOT affect credit rating and is just like a phishing email! Does he also feel 'more content' sending money to Nigeria by Western Union when 'Prince Ruwonowoko' emails and says he needs cash to free up his lost millions and will share the money? Or does your partner snort with laughter and delete such rubbish? SAME SCAM.

Oops, POPLA doesn't apply to you as you said this was in Scotland...so if it gets rejected you just IGNORE THEM after that.

NO ONE PAYS THESE SCAMMERS!

Chances are your appeal might be upheld (= allowed!) anyway if it's already close to 35 days since they would have received your appeal. Britannia are VERY TAME, do allow some appeals and do NOT use small claims Court - it's only a case of ignoring a few letters even if you hadn't appealed. Easy to ignore, I did.

He did watch the clip and I told him the comparison to the Nigerian Prince type emails, hopefully now he will get the message that these private parking fines are similar scams. One of our friends, who is a head teacher got a fine at Christmas, but didnt pay it as the notice had blown off so had no idea she was "liable", she got a further letter demanding £60 and paid it! It just shows that even professional, educated people like that are caught out. Why are the parking companies allowed to do this?

Stroma

Why they are allowed ? Because its a very grey area and things have never really been tested in a higher court, we've had vcs -v- hmrc which is a higher tax tribunal case, and that was binding on lower courts. But that wasn't specifically on this.

Parking companies would never willingly appeal any decision that would threaten their money making scam, if a case was ever heard the judgement was that this whole thing was illegal the whole house of cards will fall.

That is another reason why there are hardly any small claim court cases, to many failing because of spurious claims and companies could be banned from making any small claims completely. If that ever happened it would reverberate in the whole nefarious industry.

thereis

Very interesting reply Stroma, it just got me wondering why people just dont park in these car parks and not pay the entrance fee/ticket? Whats the worst that could happen? They get a parking charge notice that they ignore and no legal action could be taken, or am I simplifying things too much?

Stroma

Legal action can always be taken, there is nothing stopping people and companies making a claim, whether its legitimate is another question. But in regards to paying for parking, if people never paid in p&d car parks they wouldn't exist very long as what would be the point of leaving them open ?

We on here would never condone non payment of a legitimate and fair charge whether its a private car park or council. There is a huge difference for a fee to park, and a dressed up penalty for a so called breach of contract.

thereis

Stroma wrote: »

Legal action can always be taken, there is nothing stopping people and companies making a claim, whether its legitimate is another question. But in regards to paying for parking, if people never paid in p&d car parks they wouldn't exist very long as what would be the point of leaving them open ?

We on here would never condone non payment of a legitimate and fair charge whether its a private car park or council. There is a huge difference for a fee to park, and a dressed up penalty for a so called breach of contract.

Thanks for the reply. Can "failure to display" (for whatever reason, in my case it blowing to the floor) not be deemed as a breach of contract when in a pay and display car park?

Coupon-mad

thereis wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. Can "failure to display" (for whatever reason, in my case it blowing to the floor) not be deemed as a breach of contract when in a pay and display car park?

A PPC might say so to try to scam you - but who cares, it's only a matter of ignoring their junk mail like everyone here has done for many years! We wouldn't tell you to do anything we had not done ourselves. Britannia are not going to break the habit of a lifetime and suddenly chase their first ever small claim - and choose you in Scotland when they are based on the South Coast of England!

http://www.britannia-parking.co.uk/pages/contact.php

Registered Office:
Britannia Parking Limited
Britannia House, 16 Poole Hill, Bournemouth, Dorset, BH2 5PS

Half_way

thereis wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. Can "failure to display" (for whatever reason, in my case it blowing to the floor) not be deemed as a breach of contract when in a pay and display car park?

Google "fluttering ticket" to see how the council operated car parks deal with this.

thereis

Coupon-mad wrote: »

A PPC might say so to try to scam you - but who cares, it's only a matter of ignoring their junk mail like everyone here has done for many years! We wouldn't tell you to do anything we had not done ourselves. Britannia are not going to break the habit of a lifetime and suddenly chase their first ever small claim - and choose you in Scotland when they are based on the South Coast of England!


Registered Office:
Britannia Parking Limited
Britannia House, 16 Poole Hill, Bournemouth, Dorset, BH2 5PS

Thanks. That put my mind at rest a bit

thereis

Just an update on this. The 35 days have now elapsed. I heard no more word from them, should I assume that is the end of the matter?