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  • I agree, the Sky may be affordable if other luxuries are gone without.

    But driving to Belgium to purchase discounted fags is a slap in the face of all benefit claimants on the bread line and struggling.

    Fuel alone would be enough to feed a family for a week, then the quantity of fags purchased must be sustantial to justify the journey.

    You must be quite mobile to manage this trip, who knows, maybe even mobile enough to work to fund your addictions, not rely upon state support.

    Sadly, your actions, tar all benefit claimants with the same brush, and exlpains the general resentment towards people who are unable to work...
  • From where I live you can get a coach to Belgium for 25 quid. You are legally allowed 20 pouches of tobacco for personal use. This would save you about 200 pounds on UK prices. People wouldn't do it if UK taxes weren't such a rip off.
  • LunaLady
    LunaLady Posts: 1,625 Forumite
    A coach trip to Belgium sounds like hell on earth!

    I mentioned disabled because the OP gets DLA.
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  • Credit-Crunched
    Credit-Crunched Posts: 2,212 Forumite
    From where I live you can get a coach to Belgium for 25 quid. You are legally allowed 20 pouches of tobacco for personal use. This would save you about 200 pounds on UK prices. People wouldn't do it if UK taxes weren't such a rip off.

    I love the irony in that statement!

    UK taxes a rip off

    Maybe they would not be so high if they were not paying out £200 billion a year in benefits (for SOME people to abuse and spend the money on fags and coach trips abroad!)
  • LunaLady wrote: »
    A coach trip to Belgium sounds like hell on earth!

    I mentioned disabled because the OP gets DLA.

    It's actually a nice day out. It goes on Eurostar and doesn't take very long. Though we do live on the south coast and the coach picks us up a few minutes walk from our house.
  • I love the irony in that statement!

    UK taxes a rip off

    Maybe they would not be so high if they were not paying out £200 billion a year in benefits (for SOME people to abuse and spend the money on fags and coach trips abroad!)

    They would be paying less in benefits if they hadn't made 700,000 public sector workers unemployed and if they didn't have a benefit system that encourages people to breed. They'd raise more in revenue from booze and fags if they cut taxes to encourage people to buy in this country rather than go abroad to stock up.
    By the way I don't smoke and I'm not on any benefits.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    They would be paying less in benefits if they hadn't made 700,000 public sector workers unemployed and if they didn't have a benefit system that encourages people to breed. They'd raise more in revenue from booze and fags if they cut taxes to encourage people to buy in this country rather than go abroad to stock up.

    They were false jobs - not real jobs - created to massage the unemloyment figures. Those wages and pensions were bad value for the UK.

    The taxes on booze and fags also fund the national health. It's ironinc that smokers and drinkers don't want to pay taxes on these items, but will probably need the NHS more because of these habits.
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  • From where I live you can get a coach to Belgium for 25 quid. You are legally allowed 20 pouches of tobacco for personal use. This would save you about 200 pounds on UK prices. People wouldn't do it if UK taxes weren't such a rip off.

    Where I live the coach price including the chunnel is £6 per person. It takes about 60 mins from leaving home to getting off the coach in 'Tobacco Alley' in Dunkerque. Currently the savings are about £3 per pack of 20 cigs, a saving of about £20 a week. You are allowed to import approx 3600 cigs for your own consumption which works out about 6 months saving approx £540 less the £6 coach fare.

    Generally people make the trip every month, which means that they can sell approx 150 packets of 20 for £5 a time making £750 every month profit - £9000 a year tax free!
  • They were false jobs - not real jobs - created to massage the unemloyment figures. Those wages and pensions were bad value for the UK.

    The taxes on booze and fags also fund the national health. It's ironinc that smokers and drinkers don't want to pay taxes on these items, but will probably need the NHS more because of these habits.

    They'd raise more money if taxes were lower and people weren't avoiding paying them. People who drink and smoke die younger and therefore cost the state less in health care and benefits. I have an aunt who never smoked and drank little, she has been claiming state pension for 34 years. My Dad who was a heavy smoker and drinker died at 66 without ever getting a penny in pension.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    They'd raise more money if taxes were lower and people weren't avoiding paying them. People who drink and smoke die younger and therefore cost the state less in health care and benefits.

    A quick google showed that back in 2009, smoking and drink related illnesses cost the NHS 8 billion a year:eek:
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


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