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Number on zero hour contracts doubles in a year

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Will the higher prices and worse service make you more likely to shop there because the staff are on a contract you approve of? If not you can see why they do it.

    It is an awful shop in the first place and not particularly cheap. That isn't the fault of the local staff.

    Why should a large supermarket really need to use zero hours staff? It is not like footfall can't be predicted reasonably accurately and mapped.

    If the taxpayer is taking up the slack, does it matter how, if I have pay a little more for a service instead? One way or another as a consumer and tax payer I pay.

    I can understand the one man band courier argument more.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    lemonjelly wrote: »



    [cynic mode on] you reckon? [cynic mode off]

    You think you are cynical;)

    On balance of probability yes private sector always outwits any government initiative. Whether anything will be done about it is a different matter.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    of course all self employed business people, contractors, consultants, window cleaners, gardeners, small builders, plasterers etc etc have always been on zero hour contracts and we never thought to say how disgraceful it is/was.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    of course all self employed business people, contractors, consultants, window cleaners, gardeners, small builders, plasterers etc etc have always been on zero hour contracts and we never thought to say how disgraceful it is/was.
    There are no employment contracts in the above cases.
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
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    The flip side is that if an employer can take on people without the red tape and the minefield of employment law to consider then they are more likely to take them on?

    I work with several other people who are also self-employed in my industry. We have no reliance on each other and are used/dropped as required as work changes. It works very well.

    Maybe in the future people will be paid by productivity rather than getting a set wage regardless of what they do each month?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    [QUOTE=wymondham;60415771

    Maybe in the future people will be paid by productivity rather than getting a set wage regardless of what they do each month?[/QUOTE]

    Like how many PPI policies they flog.;)
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
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    Like how many PPI policies they flog.;)

    nothing wrong with the principle, just a rubbish product! :D
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    wymondham wrote: »
    The flip side is that if an employer can take on people without the red tape and the minefield of employment law to consider then they are more likely to take them on?

    I work with several other people who are also self-employed in my industry. We have no reliance on each other and are used/dropped as required as work changes. It works very well.

    Maybe in the future people will be paid by productivity rather than getting a set wage regardless of what they do each month?

    How would you do that for someone like a care home worker?
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    How would you do that for someone like a care home worker?

    Arrse wipes.
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    How would you do that for someone like a care home worker?

    How about their care is assessed closely, this would make a nice change and also improve care standards?
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