Alan Sugar Employment Tribunal.

aliasojo

Can't help but feel she might suffer with future employers now.

I can't decide if she was genuine in her grievance or not but I think it may hurt her future employability factor.

Personally I'd have happily swallowed down any unease I felt about my job for a hundred grand. Perhaps I'm just not all that noble.

dandelionclock30

I think she was done over by him, and if you have expectations of career advancement then basic admin tasks would be a disappointment.It doesnt matter how much you get paid boredom can be absolutely soul destroying and is as bad as being overworked.
She will get another job there's no question of that or she could run her own company no problem.Her life's not ruined or anything.
Alan Sugar meanwhile has done himself no favours at all really.Even though hes won its still very negative publicity for him.A hollow victory really.He should stick to selling the absolute rubbish hes famed for, Amstrad, enough said.

an9i77

Wouldn't she have made more money from selling her story to the papers than from the tribunal? She can probably milk it now, get onto some celebrity z list or something.

penrhyn

She gambled on Lord Sugar settling out of court and failed.
Whether she is delusional or led on by amoral claims lawyers we will probably never know.

http://www.amshold.com/social_media/tribunal_English.pdf

Thomas_Hardy

an9i77 wrote: »

Wouldn't she have made more money from selling her story to the papers than from the tribunal? She can probably milk it now, get onto some celebrity z list or something.

I don't think this was about gaining celebrity status, she has had that opportunity before now and somewhat shied away from it. From what I know she is now doing consultancy work.

zzzLazyDaisy

Quote: "Ms English said she carried out basic administrative tasks but did not say anything to Lord Sugar because she "did not want to be a troublemaker". Ms English then resigned"

Sorry, but if that is an accurate report of what happened, she was always going to lose this case. As anyone involved in HR or employment law will tell you, in order to have any chance of winning a CD claim, the claimant must first have exhausted the employer's grievance procedures, and give the employer a reasonable opportunity to put things right. Even then, they must show that the employer has committed a fundamental breach of contract sufficient to destroy the employment contract and bring it to an immediate end. That is a very high bar to jump, and only about 3% of CD claims succeed. If she really didn't say anything, but just resigned, then the claim was dead in the water from day one.

It would have been simple for AS to pay her off with a compromise agreement and a 'gagging clause' and avoid the publicity - but he would have left himself open to being blackmailed by every Apprentice winner who came along afterwards.

We were not at the hearing and we didn't hear the evidence, but it seems that on a pure question of law, AS was well advised - and he decided to fight the claim as he was entitled to.

One of the problems with the current system is that anyone can make a claim at no cost to themselves, and although the tribunals do have the power to strike out cases, they very rarely exercise that power. So employers are faced with paying off employees with no case, or incurring the costs of fighting the case (which win or lose, they can't claim back).

I do not agree with the introduction of fees, due to come in this summer, as I think the result will be to prevent many people with good cases from having access to legal redress. But I do believe that greater intervention should be taken at an earlier stage to weed out hopeless cases.

_Andy_

I'd quite happily do 'basic administrative tasks" for £100k.

Takeaway_Addict

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

I think she was done over by him, and if you have expectations of career advancement then basic admin tasks would be a disappointment.It doesnt matter how much you get paid boredom can be absolutely soul destroying and is as bad as being overworked.
She will get another job there's no question of that or she could run her own company no problem.Her life's not ruined or anything.
Alan Sugar meanwhile has done himself no favours at all really.Even though hes won its still very negative publicity for him.A hollow victory really.He should stick to selling the absolute rubbish hes famed for, Amstrad, enough said.

Disagree about Alan Sugar do himself no favours. If he had lost then yes but as he won he was proven right.

Glad he fought this case and won.

antrobus

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

....One of the problems with the current system is that anyone can make a claim at no cost to themselves, ....

Not for very much longer I understand. Employment Tribunal fees are going to be introduced sometime this year.

Takeaway_Addict

antrobus wrote: »

Not for very much longer I understand. Employment Tribunal fees are going to be introduced sometime this year.

Its in Lazy Daisys signature.

If there are no upfront charges then maybe there should be a set costs employers can claim back if they win.