ESA support vs work related group...

zudecke

epitome wrote: »

Or by reconsideration or appealing

You say he "won his appeal".... The question here is did he go to a tribunal to get that win Her Majestys Courts and Tribunal Service?
Or did he get a letter from his Benefit centre saying "we have looked at our decision again and changed the decision to WRAG...?

If he went to tribunal he is very unlikely to be able to get that decision changed to Support Group.

If he just got a reconsideration letter from DWP, then he can appeal the letter/decision to place him in WRAG, and go to tribunal to get Support Group.

It was indeed a physical tribunal service..

But he didn't understand the difference between Support group and Work-Related..

zudecke

Hi guys,

I'm concerned that with him being on ESA WRG, he will no longer get the amount of HB needed to continue living where he is, as per the letter he received in OP.

The letter advises that he needs to be in receipt of ESA SG or DLA to continue the level of payments he's receiving.

He is immobile to the extent that he cannot walk over 100m, nor sit for longer than 10mins without experiencing excruciating pain. He has several trapped nerves, sciatica, osteoscelrosis,a degenerating spinal condition (forgive me as I don't know the full details and it's difficult to summarise). - In any case, he's screwed and has been for a couple of years - all medical practitioners (some of which are the UKs best) have told him this.

If I understand it correctly, he cannot simply "change" benefit - However, can he apply as a brand new applicant for a new benefit (i.e. DLA)?

Thanks,

Z

Torry_Quine

redskyatnight wrote: »

Sorry to be rude and ignorant, but how and why is what you get in ESA linked to your NI contributions? Is this if you are going on it from not being on any benefit??? Rather than going on it from incapacity benefit?

Thank you

ESA contributory is available to those who have been switched from IB and to those who on making a fresh claim have sufficient NI contributions. It lasts for one year in the WRAG and indefinitely in the support group.

zudecke wrote: »

Hi guys,

I'm concerned that with him being on ESA WRG, he will no longer get the amount of HB needed to continue living where he is, as per the letter he received in OP.

The letter advises that he needs to be in receipt of ESA SG or DLA to continue the level of payments he's receiving.

He is immobile to the extent that he cannot walk over 100m, nor sit for longer than 10mins without experiencing excruciating pain. He has several trapped nerves, sciatica, osteoscelrosis,a degenerating spinal condition (forgive me as I don't know the full details and it's difficult to summarise). - In any case, he's screwed and has been for a couple of years - all medical practitioners (some of which are the UKs best) have told him this.

If I understand it correctly, he cannot simply "change" benefit - However, can he apply as a brand new applicant for a new benefit (i.e. DLA)?

Thanks,

Z

Yes if he has care and or mobility needs he can apply for PIP which has replaced dla as of this week for new claimants

richard9991

Torry_Quine wrote: »

ESA contributory is available to those who have been switched from IB and to those who on making a fresh claim have sufficient NI contributions. It lasts for one year in the WRAG and indefinitely in the support group.



Yes if he has care and or mobility needs he can apply for PIP which has replaced dla as of this week for new claimants

I thought this was only if you live in pilot areas of nw England my understanding is it wont be rolled nationally until june 2013 for new claims
Here is link
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/policy/disability/personal-independence-payment/#wpi

Torry_Quine

richard9991 wrote: »

I thought this was only if you live in pilot areas of nw England my understanding is it wont be rolled nationally until oct 2013 for new claims
Here is link
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/policy/disability/personal-independence-payment/#wpi

Yes you're right. I'm ahead of myself. It's being piloted in a few new areas.

zudecke

So what can he do? Does dla still exist then?

sammyjammy

zudecke wrote: »

So what can he do? Does dla still exist then?

It depends if he lives in one of the areas that Richard 9991 quoted, if he does then he can try and claim PIP, if he doesn't then it would still be DLA. I assume as he is affected by the benefit cap now he lives in London?

zudecke

Yes, you're correct, he lives in London.

II have no idea what dla is? Is it a benefit itself or a sort of social fund thing?