Interviews

studentphil

No one's efforts are a vein. I know I am moany and I get on your nerves.

I am trying more though now to get a job. There are lots and lots of jobs out there if I take the time and effort to find them and apply. I will get a job soon and I will make sure that all the kind words and support I have had here is not wasted.

studentphil

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Oh for goodness sake, I don't disapprove because it's not safe, I disapprove because I worry he might get arrested! Although I worry more about the drinking than the barbecues, but my disapproval doesn't stop him having friends and going out with them and doing I don't know what!

it's not necessarily safe for him to go 5 minutes down the road to the shops on his own, but he's 17, he'll be leaving home in 18 months, I can't hold his hand and take him everywhere!

I thought they told you there was someone better on the day? So, perhaps that someone better already had till experience, and experience of everything else they wanted doing, and moreover perhaps that person gave a better impression than you at interview.

Truly, unless you are completely different IRL to the way you appear here that would not be hard ...

Well, with that attitude you're bound to get it!

We have an office assistant, and even though she only works two days each week I really miss her on the days she's not there! I am the administrator, which you may think is only a little above an office assistant - we both do the very mundane things like answering the phone and the doorbell. Neither of us is in next week, and they are REALLY going to miss us.

(In fact I'm not in for another 5 weeks, time off for good behaviour, and boy are they going to miss me! :rotfl:)

Ever heard of a University bookshop? Oh, and most have a shop of some sort, don't they? In fact what with universities being money-making industries in their own right these days, I expect most departments have some form of cash income, if not an actual till.

It horrifies me that you have spent 3 years studying Philosophy yet have not the slightest grasp of logical language, without which Philosophy founders.

ONE potential employer told you that they did not offer you a job because there was a better candidate on the day. More than one employer has not invited you for interview. Numerous posters have explained to you how selection works. Surely, logically, you can work out what the problem is? IT IS NOT THAT YOU ARE USELESS (although you seem determined to demonstrate that you are unable to "read, mark, learn and inwardly digest" any advice offered.)

No-one's saying you are unemployable, we are simply suggesting that you might be MORE employable with recent office experience. You keep moaning that there will always be someone better than you on the day, and if you sit at your computer feeling sorry for yourself for the next 6 months, guess what? There WILL always be someone better than you on the day.

I spent 12 years doing fiddling little part-time office jobs when the children were young, but I also did voluntary work. On the strength of that voluntary work, I got a full-time job managing a team of secretaries after we moved. When I was describing my new job, one of my sons wanted to know how I'd got to be so important! :rotfl:By working damn hard, that's how, even when I wasn't getting paid for it.

And had it ever occurred to you that voluntary work could lead to a jolly good career? We use a lot of volunteers in my current job. Half of our staff started as volunteers. And they weren't given jobs as a formality: there was a rigorous selection procedure where we bent over backwards to make sure that candidates who didn't volunteer with us weren't discriminated against. And in some cases volunteers have applied and NOT got the job they wanted. So don't start with the "It's always rigged in favour of people who are already 'in'".

:T

Yup, he'd be right out of my life for the duration! :rotfl:

Sue, I meant it is not safe as you don't want him getting arrested.

I do get it now. Stop being so stuck in the mud and be more open to other kinds of jobs and then work hard in them and look to build to something better in time. And or look at more voluntary work for a while to help build my experience more and build my skills. And most of all stop being so negative and go out and live my life before it is all wasted.

Quasar

studentphil wrote: »

Sue, I meant it is not safe as you don't want him getting arrested.

I do get it now. Stop being so stuck in the mud and be more open to other kinds of jobs and then work hard in them and look to build to something better in time. And or look at more voluntary work for a while to help build my experience more and build my skills. And most of all stop being so negative and go out and live my life before it is all wasted.

And how often have you been advised precisely THAT in the 10 or so months you've been posting the same questions/topics? So why are you still going over the same ground?

Because you don't listen, ie. don't do anything with our advice or you soon forget what you have been told dozens of times.

Or because you are just a WUM?

studentphil

Q, I do listen and now I am getting my emotional and parent barriers sort out then I will be making a lot more progress with all the advice.

filigree_2

studentphil wrote: »

There are no lower jobs than office assistant.

I'm an office assistant, but you can't even manage that much. If I'm really the lowest of the low, then that makes you positively subterranean! :shocked: :rotfl:

studentphil

filigree wrote: »

I'm an office assistant, but you can't even manage that much. If I'm really the lowest of the low, then that makes you positively subterranean! :shocked: :rotfl:

Maybe office messenger is the lowest grade it depends on the set up I suppose.

Savvy_Sue

filigree wrote: »

I'm an office assistant, but you can't even manage that much. If I'm really the lowest of the low, then that makes you positively subterranean! :shocked: :rotfl:

studentphil wrote: »

Maybe office messenger is the lowest grade it depends on the set up I suppose.

But does it matter where you start as long as you're on the way up? No, I'll rephrase that, does it matter where you start, as long as you DO start?

I spent half my gap year temping in a polytechnic (showing my age again!) At one stage I think I was an Examinations Assistant - very grand. Do you know what my job involved? Photocopying exam papers, past and present. 100 copies at a time: I could time 100 copies precisely, I'd sit on the table breathing photocopier fumes, close my eyes and drift off, then snap awake when it was time to change the original - no ADFs in those days!

What a waste of my (not particularly impressive) A levels, you might think! Heck no, I haven't been frightened of a photocopier since, in fact I strike fear into any misbehaving copier. Plus I had to be assertive: sometimes colleagues would want to 'just do this one copy' but I wasn't supposed to have anyone in the room with me when it was a current paper I was copying. So I had to say no, sorry, you will have to wait until I am finished and that will be about an hour ... to people much older than me, much more senior than me, and very much scarier than me!

And Catseyez, I know I'm wasting my fingers. Sometimes I feel it's better than wasting my breath on my sons, well, particularly DS3 who told me in a wounded voice last week that he doesn't set out to not do his homework, he just thinks "I'll do it later", and then he's tired so he goes to bed. End result is the same, his homework's not done, but he has managed to watch the cricket, chat to all his friends on MSN and deafen the rest of us with his music! But it won't be HIS fault if he doesn't get good GCSE grades and can't stay on to take A levels, it will be 'their' decision.

Oh dear, now I'm starting to frighten myself ...

Savvy_Sue

studentphil wrote: »

Maybe office messenger is the lowest grade it depends on the set up I suppose.

So where, in your heirarchy, do the cleaners, porters, maintenance, catering and security staff fit?

Be VERY careful what you say: they're often badly paid, and clearly beneath your job-seeking attention, but without THEM the whole place really would grind to a halt! :rotfl:

VickyA_2

The last few pages (40 posts per page :rolleyes:) have been a rollercoaster ride of anger for me. I do hope that you take all this on board. I do hope that you realise that you need to start somewhere, anywhere on your journey to getting a job that is paid. People have taken precious time out of their lives to give you advice/help/assistance and they don't want you to throw that away.

I completed my first degree when I was 22, but spent the holidays filing in an office, making cups of tea and eventually worked my way up (in a four week stint!) to doing insurance quotes. I learned valuable skills and was able to pick up so many tips from being there and offering to do most things!

After I finished my PGCE for Primary teaching a couple of years ago, I was finding it difficult to find a job (too many teachers, too few jobs....... still the case). Before the supply teaching season kicked in, I went back to where I'd been a manager before I'd done my PGCE and spent 2 weeks on a production line. No responsibility, nothing. However, it proved to my future school that I was proactive and wasn't one to sit still waiting for something to come to me. I'd gone out and got it myself. (and I got my NI paid)

As the Nike slogan says - JUST DO IT!

Morglin

Phil,

For what feels like the 97th time...... - :wall:...........go to the Job Centre, see a DEA, who will help you to get a job. S/he will also arrange any training courses you may need to get extra skills.

I do know what I am talking about - they are there to help disabled people, they know how to do that, and they will assist you until you have a job.

They will taken into account any physical problems you have, they will take into accouint that you lack expereince and skills, and they will help.

They will also advise you about DLA and anything else that may help you.

Gawd, forget your parents, forget what you think certain jobs involve, and just do it........:eek:

Lin :rolleyes: