Please sign This petition Ian Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.

mazza111

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

No I never said that did I?

Don't worry, they like to twist what you say on here

mazza111

bloolagoon wrote: »

I do not think we would ever agree re people sharing, you seem very against this idea but you have to realise that the entire of the UK is not your back yard. My friends children can be in their 30's and still at home, no one gets offered a place of their own, it's not normal.

None of us get offered, we have to apply.

Your parents, yourself, your ex and now your daughter have all been allocated social housing, despite working and not being in need when allocated. This is for many in the UK not normality, even those with difficulties are often placed into private rental as there are no social housing available. Your daughters flat lay empty for 1 year due to cosmetic needs yet no one wanted that flat for over a year, can you not see how this isn't the normality for the rest of the country? Just because your area has an abundance of 2 bedrooms and therefore 2 bed I assume are empty (hence no one wanting your daughters initial 1 bedroom without painting it), as the LA would never have allowed a property to go empty for over a year if anyone was on a list.

Excuse me, I actually wasn't working when I got my first SH flat. I became homeless after leaving an abusive marriage. But that's beside the point. Anyone can apply for housing. Whether they get it or not is another story altogether. As for my parents, they paid full rent for about 90% of the time they were in social housing. Give me one reason why they shouldn't have been given SH and I'll give you 10 good reasons why they should. And it was a bit more than painting than needed done to my daughter's flat, hence why no one wanted it. Yes, we may be unique in our housing situation, I have already said that we may be. That doesn't mean we should be penalised because of the situation in London and the South Easy (mainly)

You have to look at the bigger picture, not just your own small window. We have care leavers, those leaving mental health schemes, disabled and vulnerable in private rental whom have been on the SH list for some time, why they should be denied because someone wants a spare room is beyond me (and them).

Since when was this about the Bedroom Tax?

If someone only has £56 a week to live off then sharing is cheaper, the bills will be halved and utilities - particularly Standing/Rental charges make up more than the usage, will account for most of their money.

As said previously, the utilities may be cheaper, the rental certainly isn't.

We are letting them down and keeping them on benefits whilst giving them 2 bedrooms they cannot afford. What you are suggesting is that someone loses £10 pw from an already limited budget for a spare room, I am saying this is total madness and they need to move, no one should live like that, they need to move if they have been let down.

Long Term then they need to house 2 tenants given 1 bedroom allocations in a single 2 bedroom, this freeing up a whole other house for a family and also lowering their bills.

Councils will not get involved in houseshares. Simply because they are held accountable when things go wrong. I'm not going to say it's right or wrong, but that's the way it is here anyhoo. Hence why they are given the 2 bedrooms in the first place.

As for needing to look beyond my own window. You're forgetting I've been there. After 15+ years in Brighton, I do know how the housing is down there. But still don't see why we, are penalised because of their prices. We don't get the benefits of their wages when working either. Why we're punished when we have 2 bedroom places in abundance, after all it's not our fault there are housing shortages elsewhere.

mazza111

bloolagoon wrote: »

I think personal observations often lead to opinions, I can understand why Mazza does not see merits in sharing as if there are 2 beds that would lie empty it makes no sense for sharing but yes I find this a very unique situation. From her window where SH is empty for a long time, no waiting lists and no one on a waiting list, I understand their view point, but it isn't my normality and certainly not others.

If you look at EllieJMorgan (I hope I have that right), she highlighted perfectly how easy it is for a young care leaver to be placed in a bedsit (with limited space, access to cook meals, access to freezers etc) for a long period of time. That is really the normality. As that poster said, they found it hard to budget, partly due to being in a bedsit and partly because it is existence level benefits.

Correction. We do have housing lists. Just not for 2 bedroom properties. There are 8 properties empty on my street at this point in time. All 2 bedrooms ( I think, although I could be wrong.) It's not a sought after area. Hence why 2 bedroom properties are allocated to singletons.

dandelionclock30

There are schemes available for young people that provide houseshares and support.The person does have to have issues though like be ex homeless etc, drug/alcohol problem, mental health etc. More for the vulnerable side of the market.
Young people with mates could always get a flat together I suppose.However, it takes a lot of give and take to share and many people do not have the skills to do this successfully. That goes for people from all walks of life.

nannytone_2

thats my concern.
i'm looking at getting a lodger at the miment.
but this is my home, and everything in it is obviously mine. i dont know how much care that someone would take of something that usnt theirs.
i'm also a bit of a clean freak ... and as i am also blind... i really cant have things not 'being in their place'.
strangely, i think i could accomodate a man more than i could a woman.
it;s almost like i expect men to be untidy .... very sexisr i know

mazza111

Good luck with it nannytone. I couldn't do it. Hell I couldn't even live with the fella. Guess I've had too long on my own with the kids

nannytone_2

mazza111 wrote: »

Good luck with it nannytone. I couldn't do it. Hell I couldn't even live with the fella. Guess I've had too long on my own with the kids

i have no choice but to consider it. ive lost £20 a week and will struggle to manage.

a house share would be easier in a way... as it is equally both peoples home.
but it is MY homme, and a stranger would be using my things. it's not a nice thought

mazza111

Totally understand that hon. When the kids were younger, I used to take in my runaways, but I don't think I could even put up with that these days. Hate it even when the wee man asks if his m8s can sleep over and that's just for one night. Think I've turned into a grumpy old git over night

nannytone_2

mazza111 wrote: »

Totally understand that hon. When the kids were younger, I used to take in my runaways, but I don't think I could even put up with that these days. Hate it even when the wee man asks if his m8s can sleep over and that's just for one night. Think I've turned into a grumpy old git over night

im the opposite.
i'm quite happy to have kids in the place. my PA often brings her 3 year old nephew if we are going swimmimg, and my grandbabies stay..

theyre really good though. theyve been brought up with me though and know that they cant leave anything about for me to fall over

mysterywoman10

nannytone wrote: »

i have no choice but to consider it. ive lost £20 a week and will struggle to manage.

a house share would be easier in a way... as it is equally both peoples home.
but it is MY homme, and a stranger would be using my things. it's not a nice thought

It is hard sharing your home and it's bad enough when you can see what they have done/not done, like leave loads of hair in the bath, block up the sink with food. I couldn't do it long term, it's a bit different with my students as they change and go away a lot as well. At the moment they are all away for 2 weeks for Easter.....bliss

Have you seen this Nanny?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bedroom-tax-affect-17000-blind-1816065

Disgraceful so many disabled people affected 17,000 blind alone. It is totally true about having to wait for mobility training, people don't understand when you live in a familiar area it is extremely difficult to move when you have a visual impairment.