Should you take your money out of banks?

merlingrey

Barcap wrote: »

You may think its a joke, but try telling that to the people all lost nearly everthing in cyprus. And trust me it can happen here, you can only print for so long..

The government hasent got the balls to stand up to europe, we are being overrun with migrants seeking to suck us dry, just look at our schools and services.. completely overrun with kids (and who do you think are having them all)

Its no laughing matter as your CASH is not safe, they will not cut welfare too much as these people will burn down london... they will go after easy targets..etc you with cash and old people.

Germany and France will do what they can to protect themselves and stab us in the back, the more unstable things look for them the more they'll do whatever they can to make everyone else paper over the cracks.

Our politicians are cowards indeed and will not stand up for us, we are at the mercy of European monetary fascism.

Question is in what way do you stand up against Europe? talk it through over hot tea and biscuits or do you do it violently.

Biggles

Well, I'm certainly worried. Who the hell is Cyrus?

innovate

merlingrey wrote: »

Germany and France will do what they can to protect themselves and stab us in the back

Sad but true - - - and for completeness, you need to add that the UK will do what they can to protect themselves, and to stab any of the others in the back.

Oh what a happy, and grown up, family of nations.

Ark_Welder

Biggles wrote: »

Well, I'm certainly worried. Who the hell is Cyrus?

King of Persia.

Alternatively, it is a term that describes a Russian ex-pat living in the Med?

grey_gym_sock

i wouldn't say the government hate savers. their priorities are protecting capital (and big capital is mostly not in savings) and especially the banks. and they don't care who they hurt to achieve that. which includes savers, but also ppl whose real earnings are falling, or who rely on public services. altogether, that covers most of the poor and the middle.

debt is fundamental to how the capitalist economy works. whenever there is investment, debt is the other side of the coin. this doesn't have to be unstable, or unsustainable. but sometimes debts go bad, and then the only practical solution is to declare some bankruptcies and start from a clean slate. i think the problem we have now is that we've tried to paper over the bad debts in the financial sector, and as a result the sector is sucking money out of the rest of the economy - the opposite of what it does when it's functioning properly.

please don't try mixing this up with an anti-immigrant line. immigrants are among the ppl who put most in to this country relative to what they get out. they often do low paid jobs, which nobody else wants to do. and don't have the right to claim benefits if they can't get work.

merlingrey

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

please don't try mixing this up with an anti-immigrant line. immigrants are among the ppl who put most in to this country relative to what they get out. they often do low paid jobs, which nobody else wants to do. and don't have the right to claim benefits if they can't get work.

Yeah why does that happen? what is it with nationalist rhetoric and nationalist party support in times of economic trouble?

Yeah like we really want to put nationalists like UKIP or BNP in charge, i'm sure that will fix everything. :rotfl:

Bromley86

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

immigrants . . . don't have the right to claim benefits if they can't get work.

Looks to me like EU immigrants, who are the ones that are currently in the news, can:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/25/eu-nationals-benefits-uk-proposals

Not that that invalidates the rest of your points about immigrants, but it's kinda important to the UKIP position.

Barcap

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

please don't try mixing this up with an anti-immigrant line. immigrants are among the ppl who put most in to this country relative to what they get out. they often do low paid jobs, which nobody else wants to do. and don't have the right to claim benefits if they can't get work.

Crap. migrants are comming here to start familys, so that low paid job paying £100 a week is being boosted by £200-£400 a week by tax credits ( and what about the 5 million students we have?)

And what you mean they cant claim benefits.. you been by any schools latley? seen all the extensions they built to them (schools are being overrun), most ppl i walk by speak a different language lol.

Im a postman and i can see it in the street, 9/10 newbuilds are being giving to them.. thats about £30k per house in welfare.

like i said the cake is getting smallar, and yet there are more hands taking from it, so when are we gonna see the benefits of europe?

Barcap

merlingrey wrote: »

Yeah why does that happen? what is it with nationalist rhetoric and nationalist party support in times of economic trouble?

Yeah like we really want to put nationalists like UKIP in charge, i'm sure that will fix everything. :rotfl:

And what have the three main stream partys fix? we are in an downward spiral (for the working classes at least)

I want the government to tell us how 500,000 migrants from romainia and bulgaria (3rd world nations) are gonna help us?
You think they are comming here for work?LOL, NOPE they are comming here to start familys and get all the freebees with it.

And like i said (and keep saying) low paid work doesnt help as (because of the tax-credit system) the are NOT net-crontubutors in tax.

soga

Maybe you are a bit alarmist. The gouvenment will be responsible.:)