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Electrical Safety Report
Ciderarmy1987
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Hi
Posted this on House buying but got told to re-post here
We have just had an Electrical Safety Report carried out on a we are looking to buy property.
The certificate came back unsuccessful and the cost to rectify the issues as £700 + VAT
The work that needed doing was:
1. Bond the external gas meter pipe. Cable installed under the floor
2. Derate cooker circuit MCB from 45 to 32 amp
3. Replace immersion heater 18" top entry thermostat
4. Check all academy plates/lights and install green, yellow earth to all bare earth conductors
5. Investigate the location of the mains water stop tap and check if bonded
6. Apply to have PME earth installed
7. Investigate why there is no earth reading in the lounge light fittings
8. Investigate the loss of ring continuity reading of ring circuit No. 3
All of the things raised were either dangerous or potentially dangerous.
The 3 listed as C1s were Excessive Earth Loop Impedance on the lighting and smoke detectors.
What is our best course of action forward from here. We know that the Circuit board was installed in 2006. Are these issues that would have been fine in 2006 but now fail due to current regulations?
Cheers
Posted this on House buying but got told to re-post here
We have just had an Electrical Safety Report carried out on a we are looking to buy property.
The certificate came back unsuccessful and the cost to rectify the issues as £700 + VAT
The work that needed doing was:
1. Bond the external gas meter pipe. Cable installed under the floor
2. Derate cooker circuit MCB from 45 to 32 amp
3. Replace immersion heater 18" top entry thermostat
4. Check all academy plates/lights and install green, yellow earth to all bare earth conductors
5. Investigate the location of the mains water stop tap and check if bonded
6. Apply to have PME earth installed
7. Investigate why there is no earth reading in the lounge light fittings
8. Investigate the loss of ring continuity reading of ring circuit No. 3
All of the things raised were either dangerous or potentially dangerous.
The 3 listed as C1s were Excessive Earth Loop Impedance on the lighting and smoke detectors.
What is our best course of action forward from here. We know that the Circuit board was installed in 2006. Are these issues that would have been fine in 2006 but now fail due to current regulations?
Cheers
Now buying our second house:
Accepted offer 16/12/18. Offer accepted 26/1/19. Buyer pulled out 4/2/19. Accepted new offer 13/2/19
FTB: Offer accepted 23/2/2013 Mortgage application 28/2/2013 Valuation: 4/3/2013 Valuation ok 15/3/2013 Mortgage Offer 21/3/2013 Exchange 10/4/2013 Completion 26/4/2103
Accepted offer 16/12/18. Offer accepted 26/1/19. Buyer pulled out 4/2/19. Accepted new offer 13/2/19
FTB: Offer accepted 23/2/2013 Mortgage application 28/2/2013 Valuation: 4/3/2013 Valuation ok 15/3/2013 Mortgage Offer 21/3/2013 Exchange 10/4/2013 Completion 26/4/2103
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Sounds to me (as someone who's qualified to know what I'm on about) like that was a very scaremongering report, tbh.
If your install doesn't have PME then it's more than likely what we call a TT, in which case ELI (Earth Loop Impendance) doesn't matter (kind of), and is almost certainly never going to be a C1 - in other words it's not going to imminently kill you or set fire to you.
PM me your email and I'll take a look at the full report for you and advise properly if you want. I'm a BSi Kitemark electrical installer, btw!0 -
Or the OP could post it on here so the other sparks could comment too
What's a BSI kitemarked electrician ?I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.
You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.0 -
southcoastrgi wrote: »Or the OP could post it on here so the other sparks could comment too
What, whilst everyone else falls asleep whilst we argue about the finer technicalities of life (and the sad fact that there are an awful lot of 'non' electricians who think they are)?!
I'd expect the formal BS7671 part of the report to run to around 6-7 pages, of which there's no guarantee they're right anyway!
What's a BSI kitemarked electrician ?
http://www.kitemark.com/products-and-services/electrical/electricians.php
Said (partly) tongue in cheek0 -
There seems to be a feeling among some electricians that a PME earth is the be all & end all.
It is up to the DNO to decide the appropriate type of earth and that is based on the type of network!
If it is a TN-S earth there is absolutely nothing wrong0 -
There seems to be a feeling among some electricians that a PME earth is the be all & end all.
It is up to the DNO to decide the appropriate type of earth and that is based on the type of network!
If it is a TN-S earth there is absolutely nothing wrong
Agreed, but it's a reasonable assumption that if the inspector has suggested PME then it won't be a TN of any sort, as why would anyone want to swap TN-S to TN-C-S in a domestic?!
What I do find interesting, however, is that they've pulled up lack of gas bonding and a query on water, but not had any issues with the level of RCD protection (if indeed it is TT) which I'd normally expect to run hand in hand.0
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