EXPIRED Apple Macbook Pro 13" with Retina Display 256gb for £1,049 via Groupon

prowla

lawrie28 wrote: »

Thanks for the personal insults, much appreciated. I love it when people have so much strength in an argument that they take it to insults straightaway.....

The point I was making is that from an MSE point of view, buying an Apple product doesn't make sense. There are many other, cheaper alternatives. You have an Ipad, yet similar spec tablets can be had for much less. The Ipad Mini is £245, yet I paid £100 (yes with cashback and a good deal) for a Samsung Tab2. Does everything I need it to, and I have £145 in my pocket (or more) than someone who bought an Ipad Mini. So whose the smart one there?

There is nothing wrong with Apple, but I do find that iSheep tend to oversell them (yet never/hardly ever use them to the full capability of the product) when a cheaper product can do what they need.

As for residuals, well, especially with technology, if I buy a £500 laptop, then most I can lose is £500. With a £1k laptop, I can lose £1k. So even with a good residual, I am £500 up on whatever residual you may have.

If you want to buy an Apple, buy an Apple, but sell it on its merits, rather than insulting those who disagree with you.

And for anyone who is reading, take advise from someone who has a Macbook, rather than me or Dexter, who is still saving up his money for one. (could probably get a laptop now though, and get some use out of it straightaway, but there you go...)

In the context of money saving, paying less for a different product is not always the best or cleverest option.

I have a BB playbook and an iPad - the iPad cost double (I bought it for £260 in Tesco vouchers), but it is way better.

In terms of apps, I have lots of free apps for the iPad so it had a head start. Also I use Citrix to access work systems, and I can access my Windows 7 desktop with my iPad, but it doesn't work on the Playbook (when I log in I don't get the desktop!).

Since I have an iPod, I also have music in iTunes and so didn't need to change/reformat/duplicate it for use with a different device.

The choice of brand for a computer is a moot point too.

If you are just going by the spec then it would seem that any brand laptop might be a smarter buy than a Mac, but is that the whole story?

I don't think so.

I haven't got a Mac laptop, but I personally own a Dell XPS one and I have a Lenovo one from work, both of which are in the same ball-park price-wise as the Apple. You will not get that quality for £500.

Whether you like it or not, the Mac laptops have the most quality feel of anything on the market, the underlying OS is rock solid, and the user interface is designed.

And now with Windows 8, there is a real incentive not to buy a Windows laptop. The mish-mash of cobbled together user interface styles is just confusing.

Similarly, the iPhone is just a great product. I have a 3S which I inherited from work, and I have a current BB Curve. The iPhone is the better tool for getting the job done.

So, taking the above into account, comparing Apple with generic/cheaper products is not really an exercise in money saving. If you spend less on something that isn't as good, are you really saving, or have you just spent less...?

lawrie28

prowla wrote: »

In the context of money saving, paying less for a different product is not always the best or cleverest option.

I have a BB playbook and an iPad - the iPad cost double (I bought it for £260 in Tesco vouchers), but it is way better.

In terms of apps, I have lots of free apps for the iPad so it had a head start. Also I use Citrix to access work systems, and I can access my Windows 7 desktop with my iPad, but it doesn't work on the Playbook (when I log in I don't get the desktop!).

Since I have an iPod, I also have music in iTunes and so didn't need to change/reformat/duplicate it for use with a different device.

The choice of brand for a computer is a moot point too.

If you are just going by the spec then it would seem that any brand laptop might be a smarter buy than a Mac, but is that the whole story?

I don't think so.

I haven't got a Mac laptop, but I personally own a Dell XPS one and I have a Lenovo one from work, both of which are in the same ball-park price-wise as the Apple. You will not get that quality for £500.

Whether you like it or not, the Mac laptops have the most quality feel of anything on the market, the underlying OS is rock solid, and the user interface is designed.

And now with Windows 8, there is a real incentive not to buy a Windows laptop. The mish-mash of cobbled together user interface styles is just confusing.

Similarly, the iPhone is just a great product. I have a 3S which I inherited from work, and I have a current BB Curve. The iPhone is the better tool for getting the job done.

So, taking the above into account, comparing Apple with generic/cheaper products is not really an exercise in money saving. If you spend less on something that isn't as good, are you really saving, or have you just spent less...?

A reasoned argument for the product! Exactly what I was after.

Having re -read my response to Dexter, I would also like to add re your comment on learning more about this site. having been here since 2007, I would hope to have learnt more from it than someone here for less than a year, and now how to use it effectively. Having a business degree and various jobs in the financial sector (including capital equipment) I am also well aware of Quality and residuals, and don't need a lesson from someone who is struggling to type a meaningful sentence.

prowla

I would also add that I have had an excellent experience with Apple's customer service, where my son's iPod got broken accidentally and an Apple Store replaced it FOC out of warranty. Contrast that with other stores and products.

samadams_2

might not be relevant but pricerunner are giving away an Apple TV on twitter if they get to 5000 likes!!!

sam

Dexters_Indignation

lawrie28 wrote: »

A reasoned argument for the product! Exactly what I was after.

Having re -read my response to Dexter, I would also like to add re your comment on learning more about this site. having been here since 2007, I would hope to have learnt more from it than someone here for less than a year, and now how to use it effectively. Having a business degree and various jobs in the financial sector (including capital equipment) I am also well aware of Quality and residuals, and don't need a lesson from someone who is struggling to type a meaningful sentence.

As predicted....

They will claim that they do, they will even claim they a seal trained ninja's from the CIA who know more about computers than Holly from Red Dwarf!

You should stick to the ninja cia story, Its funnier...

Though did you lose all those jobs in the financial sector?

Every one else on this board are actually better at finance than Chuck Norris!

lawrie28

Dexters_Indignation wrote: »

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Though did you lose all those jobs in the financial sector?

No, one of my clients poached me.

And your sentences still make no sense.