How to keep cat away from my neighbour?

catkins

krlyr wrote: »

Cats can be kept under control, like I said, places like Australia and the US where it's pretty much the norm (and sometimes even required by law), they manage just fine. Yeah, it's not as easy as cutting a hole in your door for a catflap, but I had to fork out for fencing, leads and so on for my dogs - you choose to get a cat, you choose the expense to keep it under control IMO.

I don't know about Australia but I know in American a lot of cats are house cats and are often de-clawed so as not to damage furniture etc. Is that really fair? A kitten that never goes out grows up never knowing what it is missing but cats usually like going out.

People already keep pets like birds, snakes, lizards etc confined to small cages which is totally alien to how those animals live in the wild. To me that is cruel.

I have 4 cats and a cat flap so it is their choice whether they go out or not. 1 never goes out as she doesn't want to, 1 only really goes out for maybe half an hour a day and never in cold weather, 1 goes out for some of the day but is always in from early evening and all night and 1 spends a lot of time outside day and night. I like the fact they can choose to do what they want to do. 3 use litter trays and the other 1 seems to go mainly in my garden. I accept that someone elses cat poo in your garden is not that nice but I get fox poo regularly in mine - it's not very nice (I have to stop dog from rolling in it!) but it's not a particularly big deal.

lisajane8482

catkins wrote: »

People already keep pets like birds, snakes, lizards etc confined to small cages which is totally alien to how those animals live in the wild. To me that is cruel.

I have two house cats and personally I do not think I'm cruel. They are safe, well fed, exercised (we play fetch and have Da Bird a long with loads of other thing which we can play together which they both love) and although they are alone from 7:15am until 6pm when we are home they get a lot of attention and affection.

Surely it is as equally cruel to send them out in to a world where people will quite happily poison and kill them. When we got our first cat we were told by our next door neighbour that someone in the area where we lived was poisoning cats. I've seen people drive down the road trying to hit cats that are crossing, silly enough to sit in the road watching.

I've also had quite a few friends who's cats have either:
a. been hit by cars and have been left to die at the side of the road,
b. been injured by people throwing stuff at them, kicking them etc
c. one day never came home and they have no idea what happened to them.

I couldn't live with myself knowing I'd let one of my cats out and something bad had happened to them. As long as they are happy, healthy and have a good life it doesn't matter if they are indoor or outdoor but that's just my opinion.

catkins

lisajane8482 wrote: »

I have two house cats and personally I do not think I'm cruel. They are safe, well fed, exercised (we play fetch and have Da Bird a long with loads of other thing which we can play together which they both love) and although they are alone from 7:15am until 6pm when we are home they get a lot of attention and affection.

Surely it is as equally cruel to send them out in to a world where people will quite happily poison and kill them. When we got our first cat we were told by our next door neighbour that someone in the area where we lived was poisoning cats. I've seen people drive down the road trying to hit cats that are crossing, silly enough to sit in the road watching.

I've also had quite a few friends who's cats have either:
a. been hit by cars and have been left to die at the side of the road,
b. been injured by people throwing stuff at them, kicking them etc
c. one day never came home and they have no idea what happened to them.

I couldn't live with myself knowing I'd let one of my cats out and something bad had happened to them. As long as they are happy, healthy and have a good life it doesn't matter if they are indoor or outdoor but that's just my opinion.

I can see your point of view and agree that some cats are perfectly happy not going out. Also if you get a kitten and it never goes out it doesn't know any different although I do think it can be a cat's natural instinct to go out and not be happy not being able to. At least in this country owners of indoor cats don't get them de-clawed.

If you live in a city or on a busy road it probably is safer to have indoor cats but what if you live surrounded by fields etc? I have had 2 cats run over and killed over the years and of course it is awful and I partly blamed myself for letting them go out but they were rescue cats who had been allowed out by their previous owners so would not have been happy indoors. I didn't live in a busy place either.

My sister knows someone who breeds cats and all hers are indoor cats. One of the kittens she kept would try to get outside and would sit at the window and cry endlessly. When he got to a 2 years old and was still doing that and seemed miserable even though her house is very cat friendly with scratching posts, toys even big tree branches in one of the rooms, she gave him to my sister who lives in a very quiet area. He now goes out although not very far and is so much happier (the breeder cannot believe the difference in him).

pawsies

I do think cats should be walked like dogs on lead.

It can be done and owners would see their cats actions for themselves, pick up the poo (hopefully!) and this stigma that cats should not be walked is ridiculous. Time to drop the stereotype of the crazy cat lady and take responsibility for them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufHVl-xTXhQ

and this video is just pure awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rXLZfsJT0

gettingready

And do you suggest I walk my cats up a tree, into bushes etc? On a lead?

Or shall I walk them on a street where we can come across dogs (on/offf lead) and cat on a lead will have no way of escaping?

Dogs are dogs - cats are cats...

demystified

ninjaryder wrote: »

Cats are pretty much pointless pets. Buy a dog instead ?

You're a pretty much a pointless human being. I'd rather welcome a cat than you into my house?

To the OP: personally I'd be looking at some kind of cat-proof netting to prevent the cat from escaping the garden. Obviously it'd have to be agreed with the landlord. Other than that theres not a lot you can do apart from move house if you're faced with a neighbour from hell. Personally I'd be worried about the cats safety, there are enough psychos about as it is. If I caught some of the people lisajane8482 mentions around here I'd have to fight hard the urge to beat them to a bloody pulp.

lisajane8482

demystified wrote: »

If I caught some of the people lisajane8482 mentions around here I'd have to fight hard the urge to beat them to a bloody pulp.

It's one of the many reasons we moved house in November last year. The area wasn't that nice and neither were most of the inhabitants. We now live in an area that's a lot nicer and have several cats that wonder around, I have seen one car aim for a cat though (youngish lad behind the wheel) I threw the nappy bag of cat poop at his car as he went past.... unfortunately though I also had to pick it up afterwards as it bounced off . I was aiming for the open drivers window in the hopes it would explode and I would either get a laugh or he'd stop so he could get a piece of my mind.

pawsies

gettingready wrote: »

And do you suggest I walk my cats up a tree, into bushes etc? On a lead?

Or shall I walk them on a street where we can come across dogs (on/offf lead) and cat on a lead will have no way of escaping?

Dogs are dogs - cats are cats...

It would save firefighters having to rescue cats that get ahead of themselves.

Obviously there are limits but if you really didn't want your cat to be attacked by dogs etc you would keep it indoors. A leash is a compromise.

Are you saying you expect dog owners to prevent their dog chasing your cat? Irony.

Cat owners need to take ultimate responsibility and stop expecting everyone else to cope with their pets. It's ridiculous.

At the end of the day a cat that is unattended all day is a stray that you feed but do not take responsibility for. That's not a pet.

Person_one

pawsies wrote: »

I do think cats should be walked like dogs on lead.

It can be done and owners would see their cats actions for themselves, pick up the poo (hopefully!) and this stigma that cats should not be walked is ridiculous. Time to drop the stereotype of the crazy cat lady and take responsibility for them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufHVl-xTXhQ

and this video is just pure awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rXLZfsJT0

As a dog owner, I really don't want cats on leads potentially round every corner.

delain

I am astounded by some of the replies on here :eek:
LL doesn't allow dogs so even if I wanted one its a no no.

I am trying to take responsibility for the blinking cat... Or I wouldn't have been here asking! There are several cats in the immediate area, I can think of 10 or so I see within 50 yards of my house (including my 2) so putting mine in a rabbit run is just plain daft... There will then be other cats in neighbours garden. I only asked about keeping it out of their house.

I don't see what open windows in summer has to do with it.. in summer my windows will be open and the cat won't be sneaking in next door...