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Private PArking Fine sent to Debt collector

Desperate for some help. My son is staying at a private apartment block near his University and has a valid parking permit. However he changed his vehicle and was waiting for his new parking permit but got a parking ticket from the company which manages the parking at the apartment parking lot. They wrote to me and I responded asking them to let me know who was the driver since I had read that a private company needs to demand the penalty from the driver at the time of the offence and not the registered keeper of the vehicle.

The parking company has not responded to me and have now passed the case to a debt collector who has sent me a letter. In this they have stated:

We are fully aware of anecdotal information presented via the internet and on various websites and you may well feel this guidance is worth following. We strongly urge you to seek independent advice rather than rely on those opinions.

Under the terms of the parking charge notice it is important to note that the driver who enters into a contract with CMS UK Ltd for the parking of a vehicle at the car park whether by purchasing a ticket or otherwise is responsible for the resolution of this breach

Could some one please help me with the last para and advice me what I need to do? Thanks in advance for any help which can be provided

Comments

  • bondy_lad
    bondy_lad Posts: 1,001 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    FAKE parking ticket,debt collectors zero powers,they are not bailiffs,,complete scam,,,you have a PARKING charge notice =fake/scam/con/fiddle,,,,only a PENALTY charge notice, which you do not have is genuine.for me ignore, but others with more experience will be along with their comments.
  • Kite2010
    Kite2010 Posts: 4,308 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Home Insurance Hacker! Car Insurance Carver!
    Carry on ignoring them.
  • prosnap
    prosnap Posts: 399 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    The whole private parking business relies on misrepresentation of authority. They are not the council, police, or government, so they can't legally issue fines or penalties. All they have sent you is a civil invoice, which you have no legal obligation to pay or acknowledge.

    Contacting them is generally a waste of time, their appeals process is worthless as it is not run by an impartial third party but rather by themselves so it's obviously within their interests to reject it.

    Over 99.9% of the time they will not take you to court, because the more times they take people to court, and lose, the more chance that other members of the public get to hear that the invoices can be ignored. This would then lead to parking companies having no income because there would be no more gullible people left!

    Taking people to court actually hurts their business ... Which is why they hardly ever try it.
    The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    You told then who the driver was, their ignoring of that is a breach of the bpa code of practice, I would complain to the dvla about that ( FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk ) , ask them why they have released registered keeper details to a company that is knowingly breaking the code of practice, include your letter or email informing them of that.

    As for the debt collector you didn't name them , but its roxburghe . Ignore them and graham white who are the same company pretending to be solicitors, they will demand £207.25p eventually which you should ignore as well.

    How do I know what the future is, well I've seen it 1000s of times before with the template letters from this company, it's so predictable that we have an entire thread dedicated to it, play snap with the letters as you get them.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2214803
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • thanks for the response. CAn breathe a sign of relief
  • fil_cad
    fil_cad Posts: 837 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Photogenic
    thanks for the response. CAn breathe a sign of relief
    You sure can and just laugh it off its one big joke lol :money:
    PPCs say its carpark management, BPA say its raising standards..... we all know its just about raking in the revenue. :eek:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,452 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Desperate for some help. My son is staying at a private apartment block near his University and has a valid parking permit. However he changed his vehicle and was waiting for his new parking permit but got a parking ticket from the company which manages the parking at the apartment parking lot. They wrote to me and I responded asking them to let me know who was the driver since I had read that a private company needs to demand the penalty from the driver at the time of the offence and not the registered keeper of the vehicle.

    The parking company has not responded to me and have now passed the case to a debt collector who has sent me a letter. In this they have stated:

    We are fully aware of anecdotal information presented via the internet and on various websites and you may well feel this guidance is worth following. We strongly urge you to seek independent advice rather than rely on those opinions.

    Under the terms of the parking charge notice it is important to note that the driver who enters into a contract with CMS UK Ltd for the parking of a vehicle at the car park whether by purchasing a ticket or otherwise is responsible for the resolution of this breach

    Could some one please help me with the last para and advice me what I need to do? Thanks in advance for any help which can be provided


    Just copy & paste the sentence in bold into Google...:)
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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