Bedroom Tax for 13 months?

mysterywoman10

Thomas_Hardy wrote: »

If you leave a small child with a person of any age who then neglects it, then the parent *may* be to blame. Age is not the issue here, it is whether it is reasonable to transfer responsibility to that person, and whether harm or neglect is foreseeable.

Many fifteen year olds are capable of fulfilling that responsibility, as is proven on a daily basis. Giving responsibility to someone of that age is not a negligent act, giving responsibility to an incapable person of any age is a negligent act.

I agree many are but many are not I accept your point but I think you will find if the person is under 18 there is a difference if something goes wrong.

Thomas_Hardy

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

I agree many are but many are not I accept your point but I think you will find if the person is under 18 there is a difference if something goes wrong.

Again, point us to the law (statute or precedent) that states this.

(Clue: There isn't one.)

soontobemrsg

I think we've hijacked the thread enough with the debate on age. Let's wait for the OP to get back and see if she thinks it's a feasible option before we go any further eh?

mysterywoman10

I'm sure on this point, this time you are probably right

But it is a lot easier to prove negligence if you leave a child with another child than if you leave it with an adult.

mysterywoman10

soontobemrsg wrote: »

I think we've hijacked the thread enough with the debate on age. Let's wait for the OP to get back and see if she thinks it's a feasible option before we go any further eh?

Fair enough agreed. Btw my post above was to Mr Hardy.

Thomas_Hardy

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

I'm sure on this point, this time you are probably right

But it is a lot easier to prove negligence if you leave a child with another child than if you leave it with an adult.

I'd ask you to provide case law on the latter point but it is clear you won't be able to.

You seem to confuse the law with your own opinion!

princessdon

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

I agree many are but many are not I accept your point but I think you will find if the person is under 18 there is a difference if something goes wrong.

Incorrect. How do parents who are aged 16 or 17 cope then? Do we never allow them to be alone, or remove their children into care.

xylophone

Fair enough agreed. Btw my post above was to Mr Hardy.

https://www.gov.uk/law-on-leaving-your-child-home-alone
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/help-and-advice/for-parents-and-carers/parenting-advice/home-alone/home-alone_wda90761.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12380329

mysterywoman10

Thomas_Hardy wrote: »

I'd ask you to provide case law on the latter point but it is clear you won't be able to.

You seem to confuse the law with your own opinion!

Deary me I agreed with you.

You were unable to come up with a reasoned argument the other day in response to your legal point of view being challenged??

In fact you clearly ran away from it

There doesn't have to be case law for the point I made that it would be easier to prove negligence if you left a child with another child. Can't see where case law comes into it because it would depend on the individual circumstances of course which I already agreed.

But anyway agreed to leave it

Willowstudent

No, I absolutely would not leave the 14 year old in charge with responsibility for getting all three younger children to school. I know my children and that would not be a safe situation. She'd murder the 12 year old!

No, I don't claim any childcare element because I am paying a family member and assume they wouldn't be eligible.

Not sure how it"s relevant but no my ex doesn't pay maintenance because we actually have 6 children together and the oldest two live with him. He supports them.

And no, I would rather starve than give up the degree. It's a professional degree which will mean I can actually get a very good job at the end, and not be drain on society for the next 30+ working years of my life! I worked bloody hard to earn my uni place and consider getting this education extremely valuable. I can give far more back than if I just took a 20 hour job in sainsburys and took tax credits handouts for the next 11 years.....

Thanks to the people who made useful suggestions.