Burglar alarm thoughts.....

securityman

keystone wrote: »

Fitting an alarm sorta advertises that you might just have something worth nicking!

Cheers

So not have having an alarm make,s it easy for them to check if you have anything worth nicking.

I have used TLC before
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Alarm_Index/Alarm_Kits_1/index.html

muckybutt

+1 for the dual tec detectors, I often fit them in living rooms and hall ways, or any where else you get draughts or moving curtains etc

Texecom alarms are decent, when I worked for the council all we used to use was challenger / C&K alarms - dead easy to program however we moved onto the Texecom alarms and they were just as good if not better.

shays_mum

Muckybutt, better than the honeywell's do you think?

muckybutt

shays_mum wrote: »

Muckybutt, better than the honeywell's do you think?

Texecom I would say far better than the Honeywell system, they (Honeywell) used to be Accenta panels....had a few problems with them over the years ! things burning out in them and often blowing the board after power cuts etc.

shays_mum

Atlast, got the alarm down to 2 suppliers!

Your thoughts please:

http://www.alertelectrical.com/prod/1555/texecom-excel-burglar-alarm-systemkit

http://www.digiteck.net/productdetail.php?productid=881&categoryid=
Just been emailed the following from digiteck:
5x Pir detectors
5x Surface magnetic contacts
1x scantronics 9651en-43 (with 3 proxy tags to arm / disarm system)
1x Keypad
1x Sd 1+Speech dialler
1x strobe siren sounder
3x panic button
1x extension speaker
1x 100m roll of 6core cable
1x internal sound bomb
1x 2.4amp acid battery

total price will be £374.00 including delivery

Know about price differences, but what about ease of programming etc?, Digiteck said they "give" free lifetime over the phone help with their alarm. If they can't fix it, were given a pin code to call scantronics free & use their engineers......

Myser

The Scantronic system quote is very competitive as it also includes an auto-dialer. The Texecom system that you are comparing it with is basic in comparison.

shays_mum

Myser wrote: »

The Scantronic system quote is very competitive as it also includes an auto-dialer. The Texecom system that you are comparing it with is basic in comparison.

Def, but i can add on things so its not a problem, am more thinking for those of that have these/install these, ease of programming, maintenance, false alarms etc.

Myser

shays_mum wrote: »

Def, but i can add on things so its not a problem, am more thinking for those of that have these/install these, ease of programming, maintenance, false alarms etc.

Ah, didn't realise you were installing it yourself. The Texecom support/forums are good. Cooper/Scantronic support tends to be exclusively for professional installers - I'm not sure how the PIN system works where you can speak to their engineers directly?

False alarms occur due to poorly installed sensors - siting and wiring. This can be minimised/avoided with newer hybrid sensor technology - both for PIRs and shock detectors.

Can you be a bit more specific about what you mean about maintenence? You will probably need to change the back-up battery every couple of years and periodically conduct a test on each sensor to make sure it is reporting back to the panel as it should. Although, most panels now have a way to self-test.

sillygoose

I am still not keen on the idea of a kit, there may be some 'bundle discount' in the deal but your likely to end up with some things you don't need and some things you will have to add on which will go against any cost saving with the bundle. Some of the bits in the bundle will be not would I would buy but you're stuck with them.

Most alarm stuff works with any other stuff (very generally!) PIR's and contact sensors works with panels, bellboxes work with panel, usually the only bit that needs to match by make and type is the panel and any remote control panels.

I would just come up with a plan of what you need where, and just try adding those things to a basket on a site, add in a drum of cable.

The PIR's in both kits sound pretty basic so wouldn't be my choice. I wouldn't use vibration sensors either.

sillygoose

This would be my basic choice of parts based on your previous quote, all good components. From Alert.

ADE Activ8 DT Dual Technology PIR
5
£110.70

Honeywell ADE Accenta control panels
ADE Accenta Burglar Alarm Panel G4 with LED Remote Keypad
1
£47.02

Quadruple Piezo Sound Bomb or internal sounder
1
£4.20

6 Core Burglar Alarm Cable
1
£12.00

ADE Reson8 Bellbox
1
£20.26

ADE Reson8 Decoy Bellbox
1
£6.17
£7.40

Honeywell Informa Speech Dialler
1
£57.00

BurglarAlarm Panic Button
3
£7.56

Total!(inc. VAT)
£266.14