Help Please - My Landlord will not let me have my deposit back - read the reasons why

Guy_Montag

silvercar wrote: »

Check your tenancy agreement, some require the tenant to have the carpets professionally cleaned at the end of the tenancy.

That's considered an unfair term by the OFT. They just need to be cleaned to the standard they were when the tenancy started. You could, for example, insist on them being steam cleaned or shampooed if you can provide evidence that they were when the tenant moved in, but "professional cleaning" means nothing.

We therefore commonly object to terms that could be used to make the tenant pay for the property to be cleaned to a higher standard than it was in at the start of the tenancy, or that require cleaning regardless of whether or not this is necessary for the tenant to comply with their normal obligations with regard to the state of the property

My emphasis added:
OFT

Scrummy - actually it would be either the HSE or the Local Authority, not the police even though it's a criminal matter, that would bring the prosecution - I'm not sure which, both have jurisdiction over certain areas of health & safety legislation (guess who's been on a H&S course recently).

prudryden

Professionally cleaned probably should read "cleaned in the way a professional cleaning company would do it". A professional cleaning company will issue a receipt showing that the carpet was steam cleaned and the oven was steam cleaned, for example. I think it means that if a person has the tools (such as steam cleaners, ladders for getting on top of wardrobes, floor polisher/waxer etc.) and uses them correctly, then there should be no problem.

scrummy_mummy_2

I wouldn't accept my tenants cleaning it themselves with a hired steam cleaner...using 'professional' companies means I can ensure consistency and more importantly impartiality!
If it isn't cleaned well, I can get them (the contractor) to do it again

I have found (if left to their own devices, especially with ovens!) that many people's ideas of clean vary widely to my own!...Kim and Aggie would be horrified by some of the sights I have encountered!
One tenant (whom I had to evict for crimes against landlording, I shan't bore you with the details of) stuffed a chicken into the waste disposal and left it to rot...they abandoned 6 cats in the house and left the door open (following their moonlight flit!) and poo all over the bathroom carpet...fag smoke everywhere, this list goes on.....ooohh ooohhh ooohhhh!

Sisyphus

scrummy_mummy wrote: »

I wouldn't accept my tenants cleaning it themselves with a hired steam cleaner...using 'professional' companies means I can ensure consistency and more importantly impartiality!
If it isn't cleaned well, I can get them (the contractor) to do it again

I have found (if left to their own devices, especially with ovens!) that many people's ideas of clean vary widely to my own!...Kim and Aggie would be horrified by some of the sights I have encountered!
One tenant (whom I had to evict for crimes against landlording, I shan't bore you with the details of) stuffed a chicken into the waste disposal and left it to rot...they abandoned 6 cats in the house and left the door open (following their moonlight flit!) and poo all over the bathroom carpet...fag smoke everywhere, this list goes on.....ooohh ooohhh ooohhhh!

maybe it's karma.

scrummy_mummy_2

Karma is believed to be a sum of all that an individual has done, is currently doing and will do. The results or "fruits" of actions are called karma-phala. Karma is not about retribution, vengeance, punishment or reward; karma simply deals with what is. The effects of all deeds actively create past, present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life, and the pain and joy it brings to others. In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one's present life and all past and future lives as well. It is cumulative.

If we accept the basic ethical purpose of karma is to behave responsibly, and the tenet of karma is essentially "if you do good things, good things will happen to you — if you do bad things, bad things will happen to you," then it is possible to identify analogs with other religions that do not rely on karma as a metaphysical assertion or doctrine.

The tenant's bad behaviour meant I could redecorate the entire apartment, recarpet and it is now sparkly new and clean I have a wonderful long term tenant....I agree...it was Karma!...or maybe I juat kicked a lot of kittens in a previous life!:rotfl:

Guy_Montag

scrummy_mummy wrote: »

Karma is believed to be a sum of all that an individual has done, is currently doing and will do. The results or "fruits" of actions are called karma-phala. Karma is not about retribution, vengeance, punishment or reward; karma simply deals with what is. The effects of all deeds actively create past, present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life, and the pain and joy it brings to others. In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one's present life and all past and future lives as well. It is cumulative.

If we accept the basic ethical purpose of karma is to behave responsibly, and the tenet of karma is essentially "if you do good things, good things will happen to you — if you do bad things, bad things will happen to you," then it is possible to identify analogs with other religions that do not rely on karma as a metaphysical assertion or doctrine.

The tenant's bad behaviour meant I could redecorate the entire apartment, recarpet and it is now sparkly new and clean I have a wonderful long term tenant....I agree...it was Karma!...or maybe I juat kicked a lot of kittens in a previous life!:rotfl:

Poo! I thought kicking kittens was allowed!

nelly_2

Baseball bat!

Is it me or is there one a week threads like this?

lynzpower

nelly wrote: »

Baseball bat!

Is it me or is there one a week threads like this?

seems almost daily at the mo :eek: must be all these rises in interest rates, LLs wanting to claw in every penny they can

Meatballs

A lot of threads have said that the inventory is to cover the LLs back recently. As I'm moving soon, would it be best to only check over an inventory that the LA/LL does and not do one if they ask me to?

In student accomodation they normally request that you do it and send it back to them...

lynzpower

I work for an inventory company, and independent inventories are best.

I dont understand why any LL wouldnt do thier own inventoiry & have the tenants sign them off, if not choose an indpenedent firm to do them.

If they ask you to fill one in, why wouldnt you just say everything was broken & filthy- jsut so you didnt get deducted on your way out?