in work credit - anyone with experience of this please as need help

lauram25

hi all

Ive just signed off from JSA today as will be starting work on monday, i was over joyed but that was short lived.

im doing 6.45 hours per week as a midday assistant so is term time only, but am paid the same wage 12 months of the year as it is averaged out.

im also doing 10 hours a week self employed which is all year round.

my advisor processed my in work credit form and has just rung to say her manager doesnt think it will be accepted. the reason is that one of the jobs is term time only for 6.45 hours and therefore when it is averaged out over the year i will not be classed as working 16 hours per week.

I had no idea of this and neither did my advisor until her manager told her.

Im gutted as that is £60 a week im losing out on that i thought i would be entitled to.

anyone else had anything similar happen or can offer any advice?

she told me that when it comes back as declined i can challenge it and say that during the holidays i will work more hours self employed, which is fine but how exactly can i prove that unless they want me to send in my invoices during the school holidays?

Thomas_Hardy

Will you actually be working more hours in the holidays, and if so, is there a reason why you cannot work these additional hours all year round?

My understanding is that your hours will be averaged over the year (as is the case with term time workers and JSA) you will not qualify. You would however qualify for WTC.

lauram25

Because I cannot fit more self employed hours in during term time as the midday job is bang in the middle of the day. During holidays I won't have midday job so can try and get more self employed hours.

But what I really wanted to know was had anyone had experience of knowledge of in work credit being turned down due to term time working.

Thomas_Hardy

lauram25 wrote: »

Because I cannot fit more self employed hours in during term time as the midday job is bang in the middle of the day. During holidays I won't have midday job so can try and get more self employed hours.

But what I really wanted to know was had anyone had experience of knowledge of in work credit being turned down due to term time working.

Your question has been answered above.

If more hours are available for your self employed work, and the midday work hinders this, would you not be better maximising your self employment?

lauram25

Thomas_Hardy wrote: »

Your question has been answered above.

If more hours are available for your self employed work, and the midday work hinders this, would you not be better maximising your self employment?

because they are not guaranteed hours, as with anything self employed, im just come off of JSA i dont want to end up back on it if it all fails. with the midday job i have the possibility of it leading to other school work and if the self employed work takes off and its going good then yes i may give up the midday job. time will see. not willing to take the risk right now as its all still new.

Going back to the in work credit, when i get the official letter stating my claim was rejected due to working term time, i will send an appeal letter to state that during school holidays i will be working 16 hours self employed - with the exception of 4 weeks per year which everyone gets as holiday - no one works 52 weeks of the year so they cant begrudge me that.

if that fails then il be at a loss, as their argument is im not working 16 hours throughout the year, which in the appeal i will be.

asdf1982

lauram25 wrote: »

hi all


she told me that when it comes back as declined i can challenge it and say that during the holidays i will work more hours self employed, which is fine but how exactly can i prove that unless they want me to send in my invoices during the school holidays?

Usually if they want proof the tax return at the end of the year will prove it, but keep all your invoices etc just in case

lauram25

asdf1982 wrote: »

Usually if they want proof the tax return at the end of the year will prove it, but keep all your invoices etc just in case

from what i know, they ask for your info every few months, so im assuming that will be my monthly records.

its just going to be a case of appealing and hoping that they realise that i am working 16 hours throughout the year, barring 4 weeks off a year.