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Randy dog!

Hi there
Hope there are some eager dog owners out there that can help me out with this problem. At first this may seem like a joke but believe me, after the eleven months we've had her and her doing this after meeting EVERY single dog it is NO joke!

Anyway....my lovely female dog who is eleven months old and NOT in season at the moment and is not spayed and will not be in the near future whenever she meets a dog..ANY DOG.. she goes down on her belly as a kind of submissive and then turns on to her back and lets the dog sniff and lick and all sorts. After a couple of seconds I HAVE to pull her away as the other dog gets bored but she still lies there. I literally have to drag her away!! :o

As you can imagine this is rather embarrasing and yesterday at dog training I was talking to someone and didn't realise until someone else pointed out that the Alsatian that she is 'friendly' with was "licking" her "bits"!:lipsrseal

I really need her to stop doing this as I am trying to get her into showing and at the moment she just can't concentrate on me until there are no other dogs around and that is not going to happen!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
:love:Baby Bump born 4th March 2010! :kisses:

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  • WeirdoMagnet
    WeirdoMagnet Posts: 1,015 Forumite
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    Sounds like your dog is submissive rather than randy, and by lying down is showing a submissive stance to other dogs. Was she socialised with other dogs as a pup?

    If it were me, I'd be working on using positive training methods (Clicker Training) to build her confidence with other dogs. When you're walking, don't make her meet dogs, but allow her to stay within her 'comfort zone' so she doesn't feel she has to lie down and show the submissive behaviour. If you're 50 yards away, and she stays walking, click and treat, and gradually decrease the distance. (This is a very quick description - have a look on Karen Pryors Clicker Training Website for lots more information.

    I wouldn't tell her off, as that will make her worry more about meeting other dogs. Neither would I drag her away, that could hurt/strain her neck/back, particularly if you walk her in a collar (rather than a harness). I'm sure she'll get up in her own time, and then you can reward her for getting up with a yummy treat!

    If you have any friends with (dog friendly) dogs you could try walking together so your dog can play with them and build her own confidence.

    And remember that no dog will ever get on with all other dogs, just like people, so there may always be some dogs (or type of dogs) that your dog will be submissive to.

    HTH,

    Georgie
    "No matter how little money and how few possesions you own, having a dog makes you rich." - Louis Sabin
  • Justie
    Justie Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    it's a mixture of flirtation and submission

    speak to your dog trainer about it and he/she should be able to give you strategies to help stop the behaviour. She's likely to still do it some of the time though. Is it limited to dogs or she go on her back with people too?

    Is there any reason why you don't want her spayed?
  • Eels100
    Eels100 Posts: 984 Forumite
    I second every word of Georgie's post.

    I'd also try to get over your own feelings of embarrassment. She isn't behaving sexually towards these dogs, it's just that we as humans interpret the behaviour as sexual. If you can accept that she's exhibiting normal canine behaviour then you've a better chance of helping her build confidence. At the moment your reaction to her behaviour will be reinforcing it, so you need to train yourself to be cool and confident around other dogs and to ignore this behaviour when it happens (and try to encourage other dog owners that you encounter to do the same).
  • Noozan
    Noozan Posts: 1,058 Forumite
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    My dog does this too, she's 18 months old and was spayed at 7 months. I think it's submissive behaviour rather than sexual. She didn't always behave this way; we took her to training classes and she was also well socialised with other dogs as a puppy.

    When she was 5 months old, we were walking in the woods and out of nowhere, 2 big labradors came bounding over to her. They gave her a fright and she started walking backwards; unfortunately she was on a small wooden footbridge at the time and she fell backwards into the stream below. Ever since this episode, she always been submissive when she sees any dog that's bigger than her. Prior to this, she was always happy to have a sniff and then run about inviting the other dog to play.

    I haven't been able to "train" this submissiveness back out of her. :(
    I have the mind of a criminal genius. I keep it in the freezer next to Mother....
  • Guinea_2
    Guinea_2 Posts: 505 Forumite
    Georgina wrote: »
    Sounds like your dog is submissive rather than randy, and by lying down is showing a submissive stance to other dogs. Was she socialised with other dogs as a pup?

    If it were me, I'd be working on using positive training methods (Clicker Training) to build her confidence with other dogs. When you're walking, don't make her meet dogs, but allow her to stay within her 'comfort zone' so she doesn't feel she has to lie down and show the submissive behaviour. If you're 50 yards away, and she stays walking, click and treat, and gradually decrease the distance. (This is a very quick description - have a look on Karen Pryors Clicker Training Website for lots more information.

    I wouldn't tell her off, as that will make her worry more about meeting other dogs. Neither would I drag her away, that could hurt/strain her neck/back, particularly if you walk her in a collar (rather than a harness). I'm sure she'll get up in her own time, and then you can reward her for getting up with a yummy treat!

    If you have any friends with (dog friendly) dogs you could try walking together so your dog can play with them and build her own confidence.

    And remember that no dog will ever get on with all other dogs, just like people, so there may always be some dogs (or type of dogs) that your dog will be submissive to.

    HTH,

    Georgie


    Thanks for the post. Yes, she was socialised with other dogs when she was a pup and I went out of my way to do this. Literally taking her where any dogs would be!!

    I don't make her meet other dogs but if they're on the same path as us or coming the direction where we will meet them then of course she has to meet them.

    We do have friends with dogs and regularly go out for walks together. She's not like this when she's with dogs she knows but just with dogs she doesn't know.

    Thanks for the advice once again and I will definately try with the clicker training when out walking.
    :love:Baby Bump born 4th March 2010! :kisses:
  • Guinea_2
    Guinea_2 Posts: 505 Forumite
    Justie wrote: »
    it's a mixture of flirtation and submission

    speak to your dog trainer about it and he/she should be able to give you strategies to help stop the behaviour. She's likely to still do it some of the time though. Is it limited to dogs or she go on her back with people too?

    Is there any reason why you don't want her spayed?


    The reason is that we are going to breed from her...maybe. If I decide not then she will be spayed!
    :love:Baby Bump born 4th March 2010! :kisses:
  • MonkeySaving?
    MonkeySaving? Posts: 1,141 Forumite
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  • Guinea_2
    Guinea_2 Posts: 505 Forumite
    If you can't be helpful then SHUT UP
    :love:Baby Bump born 4th March 2010! :kisses:
  • MonkeySaving?
    MonkeySaving? Posts: 1,141 Forumite
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    Guinea wrote: »
    If you can't be helpful then SHUT UP

    LOL, maybe you should offer it your leg!
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