Traffic warden giving ticket for misuse of blue badge??

moo842

My husband has just parked up in our local city centre to collect our son from his youth club. My son is a blue badge holder.
My husband placed the card in the window with the clock (in a disabled bay) and went to collect our son.
When he returned to the car a traffic warden was stood making out a ticket. She approached my husband and stated that he was misusing the badge.
At this point she had not even asked to look at the back of the badge.
My husband got the card out and showed her it was for our son, the badge was renewed last month so is a good likeness, she then stated it couldn't be as the badge stated it was for a female! She said she had spoken to her supervisor already who had agreed my husband was misusing the badge!
how can they make these decisions before seeing the card in full! Even if the card was stating it is a females card then how can she start writing out a ticket before he returned? He could have been picking up a girl!!
My husband was gone from the car for no more than 10 minutes, are we correct that we are allowed to park and leave the vechile to collect out son? Or should we be staying in it and waiting for him to come to the car? I don't want to misuse the card, but this is the way we have been using it for the last 3 years, he is only 10 and we can't expect him to make his way out to us!
In the end the traffic warden relented and did not issue the ticket, but it has left me worried about using it, I use it daily to park to take him to and collect him from school
Arghhhh, what should we do?

spacey2012

This is what the video facility on phones is for.

moo842

So he should have videoed it? Or she should have??

Richie-from-the-Boro

moo842 wrote: »

My husband has just parked up in our local city centre to collect our son from his youth club. My son is a blue badge holder.
My husband placed the card in the window with the clock (in a disabled bay) and went to collect our son.
When he returned to the car a traffic warden was stood making out a ticket. She approached my husband and stated that he was misusing the badge.
At this point she had not even asked to look at the back of the badge.
My husband got the card out and showed her it was for our son, the badge was renewed last month so is a good likeness, she then stated it couldn't be as the badge stated it was for a female! She said she had spoken to her supervisor already who had agreed my husband was misusing the badge!
how can they make these decisions before seeing the card in full! Even if the card was stating it is a females card then how can she start writing out a ticket before he returned? He could have been picking up a girl!!
My husband was gone from the car for no more than 10 minutes, are we correct that we are allowed to park and leave the vehicle to collect out son? Or should we be staying in it and waiting for him to come to the car? I don't want to misuse the card, but this is the way we have been using it for the last 3 years, he is only 10 and we can't expect him to make his way out to us!
In the end the traffic warden relented and did not issue the ticket, but it has left me worried about using it, I use it daily to park to take him to and collect him from school
Arghhhh, what should we do?

First don't pay and submit an appeal.

Assuming it is one of the new [from 1 January 2012] badges they have a unique BBIS numbering system and the officer / warden can tell instantly without seeing the reverse all the details of the badge holder. Verification checks can be made quickly and easily, from a PC / smart phone / handheld or similar technology.

Given the traffic warden ..........eventually decided it was a female there is something wrong with the BBIS number, get it checked out and verified by the issuing authority. If it happens again ask for a different badge with a different uncorrupted BBIS number.

pauliboo

I would do as Richie states and also make a complaint to the local authority (if it was on street parking), as if this happened to a more vulnerable person how would they react?

These traffic wardens need some more training so they don't jump to conclusions so easily, especially that now they can see exactly who the badge belongs to - did they expect the 10 yr old to be driving the car?

luminated

I must admit I was confused when I had to attend a DLA Tribunal 18 months ago. There was no parking at the Tribunal offices but was some a few hundred yards away. So we thought my wife could drop me, park the car with my Blue Badge, a few hundred yards away, then walk to me. We were so unsure as the badge was quite new so we rang the Blue Badge department at the council and said what we were proposing to find they said it was not allowed in the usage rules.

In the event we rang the Tribunal offices and explained our predicament because if she wasn't able to park the few hundred yards away she would of had to park even further away and to have to drive around a busy city with which she was not familiar. The Tribunal did have one space for such use and booked it for us but the only trouble is that when we arrived it was taken by another car with a BB and it turned out in was one of the Tribunal members. However we were told to double park blocking them in and they would explain to the on site security. What a faff.

So does anyone know if my wife could of dropped me and parked away from that point using the BB?

only_mee

moo842 wrote: »

In the end the traffic warden relented and did not issue the ticket

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

First don't pay and submit an appeal.

There was no ticket issued in the end

Richie-from-the-Boro

moo842 wrote: »

My husband has just parked up in our local city centre to collect our son from his youth club. My son is a blue badge holder.
My husband placed the card in the window with the clock (in a disabled bay) and went to collect our son.
When he returned to the car a traffic warden was stood making out a ticket. She approached my husband and stated that he was misusing the badge.
At this point she had not even asked to look at the back of the badge.
My husband got the card out and showed her it was for our son, the badge was renewed last month so is a good likeness, she then stated it couldn't be as the badge stated it was for a female! She said she had spoken to her supervisor already who had agreed my husband was misusing the badge!
how can they make these decisions before seeing the card in full! Even if the card was stating it is a females card then how can she start writing out a ticket before he returned? He could have been picking up a girl!!
My husband was gone from the car for no more than 10 minutes, are we correct that we are allowed to park and leave the vechile to collect out son? Or should we be staying in it and waiting for him to come to the car? I don't want to misuse the card, but this is the way we have been using it for the last 3 years, he is only 10 and we can't expect him to make his way out to us!
In the end the traffic warden relented and did not issue the ticket, but it has left me worried about using it, I use it daily to park to take him to and collect him from school
Arghhhh, what should we do?

Given what you were told by the issuing officer :

- LA direct employed, or private contractor indirect employed
- the BBIS details registered against the BBIS number were at least gender incorrect

Now in a different time or place if you come across a private issuer who is paid by results with a mercenary propensity to issue according to BBIS information held, you might be tied up for 13 weeks on an appeal putting right something that was not your fault.

I am pleased the outcome on this occasion was to your advantage, as the badge duration is three years you might want to check the information registered by your issuing authority in the BBIS dBase is that of your offspring.

Best of luck moo842

dori2o

The way the rules have been written now with the recent changes it's almost pointless having a badge if you are a passenger.

The rules imply that if you are a passenger the driver should use the badge to drop you off (i.e. in a disabled bay, or on yellow lines) and then find a suitable place to park up without using the blue badge. Then on returning to the car the driver should leave the disabled person, pick up the car, and then collect the passenger using the blue badge as necessary.

Drivers howerver would use the blue badge bays/on street parking/yellow lines (without restrictions) and utilise the blue badge in order to do so.

It creates a 2 tier system and put passengers at a distinct disadvantage.

Would you leave a disabled child on the kerb, outside a shopping centre/supermarket whilst you went and parked the car. Or a severely disabled adult or vulnerable disabled person?

The rules should be simple when it comes to passengers. If you are parking for the benefit of a disabled person, whether that be to pick them up, drop them off, or whether you are to accompany them, then you should use the badge, even if when you park up and leave the car to collect, or return to your car after dropping a disabled person off, you are alone and not the BB user, there should be no problem.

Unfortunately these changes are just further restrictions that are being forced onto the disabled. It seems we are returning to the days of disabled people being neither seen nor heard. It's easier to forget about them that way.

ERICS_MUM

It's a pity the parking wardens don't show such zeal when dealing with cars that don't display a BB.

On two occasions in the past year we have had tickets for (a) displaying it upside down even though it was visible, and (b) for overhanging the only disabled bay, which I had to do because cars further down the row were parked with enormous gaps between them (no marked bays). If these gaps had been closed up they would have created 2 more parking spaces. Unfortunately this inconsiderate parking is not considered a contravention of LA rules.

sunnyone

dori2o wrote: »

The way the rules have been written now with the recent changes it's almost pointless having a badge if you are a passenger.

The rules imply that if you are a passenger the driver should use the badge to drop you off (i.e. in a disabled bay, or on yellow lines) and then find a suitable place to park up without using the blue badge. Then on returning to the car the driver should leave the disabled person, pick up the car, and then collect the passenger using the blue badge as necessary.

Drivers howerver would use the blue badge bays/on street parking/yellow lines (without restrictions) and utilise the blue badge in order to do so.

It creates a 2 tier system and put passengers at a distinct disadvantage.

Would you leave a disabled child on the kerb, outside a shopping centre/supermarket whilst you went and parked the car. Or a severely disabled adult or vulnerable disabled person?

The rules should be simple when it comes to passengers. If you are parking for the benefit of a disabled person, whether that be to pick them up, drop them off, or whether you are to accompany them, then you should use the badge, even if when you park up and leave the car to collect, or return to your car after dropping a disabled person off, you are alone and not the BB user, there should be no problem.

Unfortunately these changes are just further restrictions that are being forced onto the disabled. It seems we are returning to the days of disabled people being neither seen nor heard. It's easier to forget about them that way.

Why does a driver with no disability need to use a disabled bay/blue badge when the disabled passenger is not in the car when it is parked and will not be returning to the car with the driver?

The rules are simple, in the situation above the driver deserves a ticket.

You cant drop off a disabled child and then park the car so that is a red herring you are using to justify abuse of blue badges.