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VCS WIN - PPCs can offer contracts

VCS has won in the court of appeal, a PPC can offer a contract to park.

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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    edited 13 March 2013 at 4:21PM
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • SodG24
    SodG24 Posts: 1,123 Forumite
    edited 13 March 2013 at 4:29PM
    EDIT - so the Judges support a contract that allows towing which is illegal ?????
    All aboard the Gus Bus !
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    SodG24 wrote: »
    EDIT - so the Judges support a contract that allows towing which is illegal ?????

    Yes I noticed that too, though I'm reading this on my mobile so can't see it properly
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Cue perky crowing.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • surfboy1
    surfboy1 Posts: 345 Forumite
    So, VCSs Parking Charge is "damages for trespass" is it?
    Hmmmmmm.
  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Who cares, you still wont get any money.
    Be happy...;)
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Sits back and awaits comments from HMRC.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • Hello

    Long time lurker, first time poster here.

    Would someone with more understanding of these things than I be able to outline the potential consequences of this appeal outcome?

    If it is accepted that a contract is formed between the PPC and the driver, is it not still the case that any charges levied for an alleged breach of contract can only represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss, which of course the majority of parking charges do not.

    Will this result in an increase in PCC doing court?
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    I think I would welcome some comment from polyplastic and other lawyers after then have studied the judgement to see exactly what this means to the much quoted vcs-v-hmrc foundation that we and others have been quoting for some time.

    Nothing on pepipoo yet.
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