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POPLA Decisions

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  • Umkomaas wrote: »
    Go back to your post and put some paragraphs into that massive wall of text so we know the reasons for the POPLA refusal. You really shouldn't expect regulars, who are reading dozens upon dozens of threads every day, to have to plough through that enormous block of words.

    Help others to help you.

    done this now
  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
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    done this now

    It's still an unreadable wall of text.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,363 Forumite
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    nigelbb wrote: »
    It's still an unreadable wall of text.

    Edited on the original thread.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/74008828#Comment_74008828
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Biting the bullet and paying. Cannot be bothered to deal with the hassle and the 6 year wait and a pregnant partner/young children because all it will do and has done is cause arguments. Too time consuming for me and out of my depth. Good luck to others who will but it really is not worth the hassle and time for it. End of the day 100 quid really is nothing for a stupid mistake which I was completely at fault for.
    Thanks to all those who put their time and effort into it and good luck
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,785 Forumite
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    edited 12 March 2018 at 9:29PM
    No you are not! Joke, surely.

    No-one pays these and this is not a place to post such twaddle. Yours is ONLY Britannia, come on!! Please STOP and read what was said on your thread:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/74008151#Comment_74008151

    Don't be mugged just ignore them, what do you think we did before POPLA existed?!!

    DO NOT PAY THIS, THERE IS NO NEED WHATSOEVER AND ANYONE WHO DOES...WORDS FAIL ME...

    Here is what you should have done, posted by a person who is struggling after a stroke:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/74012999#Comment_74012999

    Anyone can ignore debt letters after a stupid private PCN, I've done so myself, it's almost amusing.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • waamo
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    Biting the bullet and paying. Cannot be bothered to deal with the hassle and the 6 year wait and a pregnant partner/young children because all it will do and has done is cause arguments. Too time consuming for me and out of my depth. Good luck to others who will but it really is not worth the hassle and time for it. End of the day 100 quid really is nothing for a stupid mistake which I was completely at fault for.
    Thanks to all those who put their time and effort into it and good luck

    Britannia don't do court. They huff and puff but that's about it. I would seriously reconsider paying all that is going to happen is that you get sent paperwork that isn't soft, strong or even very, very long.
  • beamerguy
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    waamo wrote: »
    Britannia don't do court. They huff and puff but that's about it. I would seriously reconsider paying all that is going to happen is that you get sent paperwork that isn't soft, strong or even very, very long.

    Perfect Waamo, your summing up is perfection

    #OP ......... DO NOT PAY SCAMMERS
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    If you pay this you will be funding white slavery, the import of class A substances into our schools, and knock off Nikes in our markets. Man up and fight man.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • mezzyd
    mezzyd Posts: 55 Forumite
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    APCOA chose not to contest my appeal to POPLA so am posting details as requested by Fruitcake. Happy to give more detail if wanted.
    I appealed on 6 grounds:
    - challenge over legal authority for APCOA to make contracts/enforce parking on the land
    - truly awful signage, both in position within the car park & content of the signs
    - non-compliance with Data Protection Act as APCOA not registered with ICO for ANPR
    - additional contract term advised on rejection of appeal, contrary to Consumer Rights Act
    - no warning to keeper in original PCN therefore unable to transfer liability under POFA
    - Council owned/not relevant land/no keeper liability
    As evidence I had photos of the signs, a satellite image showing the long distance from terms & conditions sign at entrance to parking bays, Google street view photo to show position of signs on right hand side of roadway, screenshot of Title Deed showing ownership by London Borough of Lewisham.
    Think APCOA took one look & couldn't be bothered to put the work in to counter it, but to be honest their position was indefensible. A very pleasing result, thanks to everyone who contributes to this forum.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 16 March 2018 at 1:10PM
    They have wasted your time, now waste theirs. They do this time after time when their claims are robustly contested. Send them a LBC for your time, you do not have to follow through but it will cos them money to reply

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/legal-system/taking-legal-action/small-claims/going-to-court/taking-court-action/step-one-write-a-letter-before-action/

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for alleged breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They nearly always lose, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P.

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind most of these companies may well be put out of business by Christmas.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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