PPS Parking Notice - I've already appealed

Guys_Dad

Stroma wrote: »

Can you please stop hijacking threads ! ! You have created a thread about this already

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ShivyDevon_2

Right I have sent it off. I will let you know the outcome.

If POPLA don't find in my favour where does that leave me re: having to pay the notice?

trisontana

POPLA decisions are not binding on the motorist. If you lose you can still ignore. They are binding on the PPC.

ShivyDevon_2

POPLA have submitted their evidence and argued every point. However one thing that stands out is they say they have a contract with the landowner and can provide it if required but have not offered it in their evidence pack - is this a failure on their part?

They argue the toss on all other counts i.e. signage is clear, I made a contract by being in the car park and in that contract I signed up to the £100 charge etc.

Decision will be made on 7th May. I'm not confident it has to be said but who knows!

trisontana

When you say "POPLA", do you mean the parking company?

If the parking company have not submitted the contract then that could go against them. In the last few weeks POPLA decisions have gone against PPCs because they have not submitted these contract.

Coupon-mad

ShivyDevon wrote: »

POPLA have submitted their evidence and argued every point. However one thing that stands out is they say they have a contract with the landowner and can provide it if required but have not offered it in their evidence pack - is this a failure on their part?

They argue the toss on all other counts i.e. signage is clear, I made a contract by being in the car park and in that contract I signed up to the £100 charge etc.

Decision will be made on 7th May. I'm not confident it has to be said but who knows!

Be confident. Look at the recent POPLA decisions (top thread) where it's clear a PPC needs to show the contract!

fisherjim

ShivyDevon wrote: »

POPLA have submitted their evidence and argued every point. However one thing that stands out is they say they have a contract with the landowner and can provide it if required but have not offered it in their evidence pack - is this a failure on their part?

That would be interesting to see, but I doubt they will!

ShivyDevon wrote: »

They argue the toss on all other counts i.e. signage is clear, I made a contract by being in the car park and in that contract I signed up to the £100 charge etc.

Did they really use those words, perhaps they can provide that too?

ShivyDevon_2

Apologies I meant PPS have submitted their evidence to POPLA.

Wording re the contract "PPS have a lawful authority and a contract to operate on this Private Land. I am happy to produce this contract to POPLA and or the BPA to confirm this.

Re the contract they state the contract is formed when driver enters the site and chooses to park in accordance with the signage. So language not saying signed up per se but effectively along those lines. Other areas addressed and argued alright. I'm kinda banking on the contract issue.

Fingers crossed

Stroma

They should submit the contract to you as well, otherwise how can you counter what it says ? This should be raised to popla as an appeal point, you are not allowed to submit something in defence without it being fully transparent to them, so why should they be able too? Do they have something to hide ?

ShivyDevon_2

Stroma wrote: »

They should submit the contract to you as well, otherwise how can you counter what it says ? This should be raised to popla as an appeal point, you are not allowed to submit something in defence without it being fully transparent to them, so why should they be able too? Do they have something to hide ?

Thanks for that point. However, I thought POPLA was a one off opportunity and that evidence could not be submitted beyond the appeal hearing date? Granted that is 7 days away - could POPLA request it in that time or do thy just go on what they have got?

Thanks