'A generation of Muslims not able to go to university?' blog discussion

sharnad

dktreesea wrote: »

Just because people may appear drunk to you doesn't mean they are. Maybe they have had an accident. Maybe they are injured.

I hear people sometimes on the bus, talking about some other poor soul who has just got on the bus and who is a bit worse for wear. People say horrible things, just such nasty things. Sometimes directly to the person. Calling someone "chav" or "yob" is in the same category. I always hope one day that man or woman's fate is theirs.

You appear to be terribly small minded where people from other cultures are from. You hope that someday anyone who has called someone a yob turns into yob:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

sharnad

adouglasmhor wrote: »

My father collapsed outside his work while waiting for a bus, women talked over him saying vile things like “look at the state of that”, "that's terrible that man being in that state and he's well dressed" etc. and got on the bus and left him lying in the street, only when one of his draughtsmen came out the office and saw him was an ambulance called - I am not sure why he ended up in hospital that day, but drink was not involved. I hope those harpies he heard talking about him as he lay in pain and fear on the pavement have had miserable and sordid lives since then.

I cant imagine someone seeing someone on the floor and not go and help them. Its something you would always do.

adouglasmhor

The women who said those things about my dad were local Glasgow people, not from any alien culture, you can get good people and judgemental mean spirited people everywhere and anywhere.

Fire_Fox

dktreesea wrote: »

Just because people may appear drunk to you doesn't mean they are. Maybe they have had an accident. Maybe they are injured.

You really are clutching at straws now, duh, working in lifestyle healthcare I obviously hadn't thought of that all by myself. :rotfl: I take it you've never lived in a city centre!

I can't imagine how entire groups dressed in their best pulling kit, weaving down the road screeching at the top of their lungs and/ or getting into a mass punchup in the street right outside a nightclub that has just closed and/ or laughing like drains whilst smashing up public property and/ or p1ssing or puking literally on someone's front doorstep ALL managed to get injured in a tragic accident or actually have an illness that makes them behave exactly as if they were drunk ... simultaneously, in the small hours of every Friday and Saturday, sometimes Thursdays and Sundays too.

Thankfully both the police and council licensing committee agree wasted idiots who have "little regard for the law or local residents" are unacceptable.

dktreesea

Fire_Fox wrote: »

You really are clutching at straws now, duh, working in lifestyle healthcare I obviously hadn't thought of that all by myself. :rotfl: I take it you've never lived in a city centre!

I can't imagine how entire groups dressed in their best pulling kit, weaving down the road screeching at the top of their lungs and/ or getting into a mass punchup in the street right outside a nightclub that has just closed and/ or laughing like drains whilst smashing up public property and/ or p1ssing or puking literally on someone's front doorstep ALL managed to get injured in a tragic accident or actually have an illness that makes them behave exactly as if they were drunk ... simultaneously, in the small hours of every Friday and Saturday, sometimes Thursdays and Sundays too.

Thankfully both the police and council licensing committee agree wasted idiots who have "little regard for the law or local residents" are unacceptable.

I live in a place, thank goodness, where that kind of behaviour/night out is not the modus operandi of the local population.

dktreesea

adouglasmhor wrote: »

My father collapsed outside his work while waiting for a bus, women talked over him saying vile things like “look at the state of that”, "that's terrible that man being in that state and he's well dressed" etc. and got on the bus and left him lying in the street, only when one of his draughtsmen came out the office and saw him was an ambulance called - I am not sure why he ended up in hospital that day, but drink was not involved. I hope those harpies he heard talking about him as he lay in pain and fear on the pavement have had miserable and sordid lives since then.

Something similar happened up here a few years back, when a girl who had been stabbed was just left collapsed in the street and no one came to her aid because they thought she was drunk.

I hope your Dad is okay now.

2sides2everystory

Maybe as the Student Finance Czar, Martin can't now directly criticise the SFE scheme for the awful mis-sold scheme that it is.

The fact is everyone deserves a free university education if they are prepared to study.

Pushing young people with no income to the point of duress to sign up for loan contracts is not treating them fairly and so is already unlawful.

It doesn't become perfectly legit just because the government promote it or MSE promotes it or even if a case brought by a couple of teenagers brought along unlawful discrimination lines was dismissed.

It is also totally unlawful that financial services companies should help themselves to ever increasing percentages of depositor's funds and to pay themselves those sinful "bonuses" like Rich Ricci got at Barclays recently.

There is no shortage of money in our economy to pay for any number of students' education whether they be devout Muslims or devout Jesuits or anything in between. The money is in the hands of robbers. We just need to take it back. We know who they are. They are named directors of big corporate and of the crony organisations set up to manipulate big corporate rewards and cartel pricing strategies. They are wallowing in our cash. They may talk with posh accents or they may talk with any accent but they are dirt.

Do you know a highly paid chief executive? If he/she takes home six figures a year I can tell you he/she isn't worth it. If he or she is a university vice chancellor he or she should clear off and let someone more committed do the job.

If he/she takes home seven figures then you know a crook. Don't associate yourself with such people. Make their lives difficult. Question everything they do. If you must associate then persuade them they are not helping anyone except themselves. Start on the premise that they are guilty of robbing from the rest of us until proven innocent. We know this is right because of patterns learned from the sands of time: it is more difficult for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of your God, whomsoever that may be. The use of the word camel is of course as much Muslim as Christian or anything else.


If little old Cyprus can stand up to a few Oligarchs and take money back direct from bad guys' bank accounts, then so can we in the UK. We need it to fund a proper education system for our young people.

Else we are just all guilty of propounding a disgusting little system that rewards those ruthless enough to clamber over everyone and everything to declare "success" as if they are somehow more clever than those of us whose conscience still pricks effectively.

adouglasmhor

dktreesea wrote: »

Something similar happened up here a few years back, when a girl who had been stabbed was just left collapsed in the street and no one came to her aid because they thought she was drunk.

I hope your Dad is okay now.

He is fine, he had a rough couple of years while they got his thyroid stablised but fully recovered and is now enjoying his retirement thanks

kittykat100

This thread just firms my belief that religion is the cause of most conflict and aggression, and I am just glad I am an athiest!

2sides2everystory

So ... about the topic of this thread ... university entrances in England 2012 were some 10% down were they not?

My son and daughter went to the same school just one year apart ... my daughter just told me that almost all my son's immediate cohort went to university last year but there are none save her planning to go in hers :eek:

Furthermore I just drove down a motorway to London which is coming apart at the seams. When did anyone last see a motorway properly built or repaired?

Who has all the money? Where is it not being spent? How shall we go get it and start building properly and making sure that those hooked on the bonus culture are completely ostracised and totally buried very soon?

I had a call from Marks and Spencer Financial services out of the blue yesterday. They are poised to steal personal banking business market space from the totally discredited banks. I say let's help them. They know a little about serving customers. I told them its all personal business. I am sick of having the anonymous City plunder my pension funds like it was some massive commercial contract business I wouldn't understand. Stuff Barclays and HSBC for a start. Get rid of Teflon "Duck's Back" Hester and that no name Lloyds Group boss.

Drum out those disgusting Americans at Goldmans and JPMorgan and the Societe Generales and Citibanks and Banks of America and Bank Paribas. Lynch the Merrills. Get rid of that expensive Canadian masquerading as a leader in our national bank. I don't think we need State Bank of India playing games either. Tell them all to get up and go and require them to immediately cease and desist from touching their computers ... NOW!

Nationalise all these crooks' UK domiciled funds and assets immediately. Use those sequestered funds to immediately settle all student loans outstanding and to get ready to pay for a free university education for all including those who have been written off in middle age because big corporate can't abide mature ideas of fairness in business.

Then we might get a real broad-based education system worthy of the title "World class" instead of the feeble excuse of a few traditional names marketing themselves well past their sell by date.

Give Vince Cable Treasury. Let him run it till he drops and make sure before that happens we find someone worthy of filling his hat.
Move Osborne into charge of RBS and Lloyds and tell him to fix it pronto into something useful and to not mess up this time or else.

Oh ... and appoint Philip Meadowcroft of Norwich Union Policyholder Action Group as Chairman of the FCA before it becomes a total farce like it did whilst we still called it FSA right up until last week. The man should already have received high honours for his work in bringing City crooks face to face with their ineptitudes.

What to do with Cameron and Clegg? Who cares ? Do they yet know the price of milk ? No they don't. Forget them. I already have.