nail gun for scotia??

annoyd

Thinking about purchasing a nail gun mainly for use on scotia around laminate as the grabs like nails im using seems to be more hassle than its worth. It will come in handy for panelling and stuff aswell. I am completely new to the idea of this, but what kind of nail gun should i be looking for? I think the 23gauge guns (pin nailers) seem impressive... but can only find one within my price range (max i want to spend is 100)... But after reading up on a few it seems as though the cheaper models may damage the scotia??

would a 23g pin be strong enough to support scotia if it gets knocked with hoovers and stuff?

ive seen the MAKITA 23g AF201Z which seems to be one of the only ones in my price range at 23gauge... anyone have any info on this? says its an air nailer, does that mean i need a compressor to use it?

Can anyone recommend me a good nail gun for use on scotia? The less filling i have to do the better note my obsession with the 23gauge

also if i didnt buy a electric one, would that mean i had to change the canisters or something eventually? or do they generate their own pressure somehow

cheers in advance

leveller2911

Various choices with nailers, from my experiance electric ones like Tacwise are poor, tend to jam regularly.

Gas powered are better but tend to be more expensive with makers such as Pasload and Stanley Bostitch (my favourites).Compressor fed guns are again more expensive,heavy to carry around. Gauge wise I use 18g and don't have any problems with filling the nail heads and they do pull up tight. You can get headless pinners but I'm not sure they would hold.The pin gun you linked is a compressor fed one so do you have a compressor?

I use these....http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.php/section/8984/sn/BOSGBT1850K


Take it out the box,slip in the battery and start nailing and you can take it anywhere.They work on a Li-ion battery and gas canisters same as the Pasloads. Do you warrant a pin gun? Is it for trade or DIY? If its for your home and not used regularly then go for a Tacwise or similar.

annoyd

leveller2911 wrote: »

Various choices with nailers, from my experiance electric ones like Tacwise are poor, tend to jam regularly.

Gas powered are better but tend to be more expensive with makers such as Pasload and Stanley Bostitch (my favourites).Compressor fed guns are again more expensive,heavy to carry around. Gauge wise I use 18g and don't have any problems with filling the nail heads and they do pull up tight. You can get headless pinners but I'm not sure they would hold.The pin gun you linked is a compressor fed one so do you have a compressor?

I use these....http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.php/section/8984/sn/BOSGBT1850K


Take it out the box,slip in the battery and start nailing and you can take it anywhere.They work on a Li-ion battery and gas canisters same as the Pasloads. Do you warrant a pin gun? Is it for trade or DIY? If its for your home and not used regularly then go for a Tacwise or similar.

cheers, ye it will only be used for DIY, note my small budget. I will hopefully be using it alot, as i plan to do houses up and rent or sell.... but it wont be used more than twice a year i wouldn't have thought. Is there anything i should look out for in the design of a gun that would make you think that it may damage the surface??

leveller2911

annoyd wrote: »

cheers, ye it will only be used for DIY, note my small budget. I will hopefully be using it alot, as i plan to do houses up and rent or sell.... but it wont be used more than twice a year i wouldn't have thought. Is there anything i should look out for in the design of a gun that would make you think that it may damage the surface??

Most nail/pin guns have a small rubber "no mark" foot that helps to stop bruising around the pin head.The Stanley Bostitch ones do.

Do you have a compressor already?, as the pin gun you linked is a compressor fed gun.The link below shows various types.

http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/browse.php/section/819/level/3

annoyd

leveller2911 wrote: »

Most nail/pin guns have a small rubber "no mark" foot that helps to stop bruising around the pin head.The Stanley Bostitch ones do.

Do you have a compressor already?, as the pin gun you linked is a compressor fed gun.The link below shows various types.

http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/browse.php/section/819/level/3

no i dont i thought maybe it had some sort of canister it used.

whats a brad then?? is that a type of nail?? is that the thing i need to be looking at... so...

http://www.dmtools.co.uk/product.php/section/4564/sn/TAC191PRO

is the kind of thing i should be buying, and would do the job i want it to

leveller2911

annoyd wrote: »

no i dont i thought maybe it had some sort of canister it used.

whats a brad then?? is that a type of nail?? is that the thing i need to be looking at... so...

http://www.dmtools.co.uk/product.php/section/4564/sn/TAC191PRO

is the kind of thing i should be buying, and would do the job i want it to

The pneumatic nailers require a compressor. Brad is a type of nail, it has a wider head than the shaft as opposed to a "headless" pin which doesn't have a head.You will be ok with an 18g pin gun.

The link below may well do as this will do 18g nails and also staples so handy when putting down hardboard etc on top of flooring before the carpets go down so a little more versatile.. Not a fan of electric ones but that may be your best solution.You may be able to source the same model cheaper elsewhere so have a surf but it does include 4000 nails.

http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.php/section/6645/sn/TAC191PRO

annoyd

leveller2911 wrote: »

The pneumatic nailers require a compressor. Brad is a type of nail, it has a wider head than the shaft as opposed to a "headless" pin which doesn't have a head.You will be ok with an 18g pin gun.

The link below may well do as this will do 18g nails and also staples so handy when putting down hardboard etc on top of flooring before the carpets go down so a little more versatile.. Not a fan of electric ones but that may be your best solution.You may be able to source the same model cheaper elsewhere so have a surf but it does include 4000 nails.

http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.php/section/6645/sn/TAC191PRO

thanks for your help, found it in my local screwfix but its dearer, but means i can collect it tommorow and get on with it. Cheers

mr_vampy

I fit a lot of laminate flooring and when I come to do the scotia, I used the Tacwise 191EL. It fires nails from 15mm - 35mm. Depending on where you go, expect to pay between £60 to £80.

annoyd

mr_vampy wrote: »

I fit a lot of laminate flooring and when I come to do the scotia, I used the Tacwise 191EL. It fires nails from 15mm - 35mm. Depending on where you go, expect to pay between £60 to £80.

cheers... what size nails would you reccomened? I think the "4000" fixture deal thats in most shops with that gun, are 2000 25mm nails and 2000 staples.... but 25mm seems way too big to me for what i want?

mr_vampy

annoyd wrote: »

cheers... what size nails would you reccomened? I think the "4000" fixture deal thats in most shops with that gun, are 2000 25mm nails and 2000 staples.... but 25mm seems way too big to me for what i want?

If it's the 16mm x 16mm scotia, I use the 15mm brad nails. You can buy them from Screwfix, Toolstation, B&Q etc
http://www.screwfix.com/p/galvanised-brad-nails-galvanised-18ga-15mm-pack-of-5000/79722

If you are using quadrant beading then a longer nail will be needed.

jennifernil

We have just finished floors in our daughter's house, about 60 metres round the edges minimum.

OH bought an AK6063.07A Sealey electric nail gun (max 20 nails per minute) from Justoffbase for £31.64, 5000 nails 18 gauge x 30mm were £11.62, total with shipping was £47.21.

Works well on a solid background. Nails are very difficult to remove if you make a mistake!

Shorter nails are available.