Labour Ahead In Economy Poll -By 2% You Gov

grizzly1911

BobQ wrote: »

But this would have saved so much money for reducing taxes.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

PaulF81

BobQ wrote: »

I agree we would have had the same rubbish NHS hospitals for the average person who would not be expected to live as long as people like us as the waiting lists continued to grow. Nice private hospitals for the well paid -as it should be - and as you say educational standards would be much higher, at least for those who could pay for private education or live in nice areas. The delapidated leaking schools in the inner cities would be there as the safety net in the inner cities. But this would have saved so much money for reducing taxes. I suppose you are right that house prices would have been kept under control, the Tories would have regulated the banks reckless lending, I recall their opposition to the de-regulation of financial institutions that Labour practiced. They said at the time it would all end in failure.

Of course we would (as you say) have had fewer wars. I (like you) remember the opposition of the Tories to all of Blair's wars. I admired the various leaders of the Tories who argued against supporting the UN in Kosovo. I recall the Tory leaders who condemned going to Iraq and Ahghanistan at the time.

We would still have triple A and no unsustainable deficit either.

BobQ

PaulF81 wrote: »

We would still have triple A and no unsustainable deficit either.

More speculation.

PaulF81

Only Labour could have boasted about there being 'no money left' in the government handover.

BobQ

PaulF81 wrote: »

Only Labour could have boasted about there being 'no money left' in the government handover.

Only Labour?

"Good luck, old !!!! ... Sorry to leave it in such a mess."

left by Tory Reginald Maudling to his Labour successor James Callaghan in 1964 as per a well established tradition of right honourable ministers leaving their successors a private message.

Of course most to not seek to make political capital out of publishing them immediately.

Edit Oh how things have changed that we censor the word c*ck

DecentLivingWage

The Deliberate Impoverishment Model for the economy may be dead in the water says The Guardian (a seventies model for a futuristic global economy?) Cameron & Osborne can flap about on the hook as much as they like, but at the end of the day their failure means there are no goodies in the sweetie bag on budget day (except for millionaires tax of course) and as the article says, at the end of the day ... there is always the ballot box and they are totally dependent on that for voter sentiment... oh dear http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/26/beppe-grillo-may-shake-european-system

Moby

Harry_Boyle wrote: »

I'll be voting Cons at the next election, not because I buy into their idiology but simply because I believe they are more likely than Labour to do what needs to be done.

I think you'd make a perfect tory voter...after all you can't spell 'ideology'!;)

Moby

PaulF81 wrote: »

Only Labour could have boasted about there being 'no money left' in the government handover.

I think they deserve credit for being honest!

Moby

DervProf wrote: »

Spot on.

Labour enjoyed claiming they created a strong economy, low unemployment etc., but they blame "the rest of the world" for messing it up. Now they blame the current government for not fixing the mess within a couple of years. They will not admit that their "strong economy" was built on the back of some rather dubious practices by our banks (which their FSA was supposed to keep an eye on), which left them rather exposed to an almost certain economic crisis.

I believe that New Labour were running a budget defecit, even at the height of their "boom years".

As I was discussing with a friend at the weekend, people voted in the hope that the new government could repair the economy. Did they really exopect everything to be back like it was in 2006 within a few years ? Sadly, I think they did.

So there is no financial crisis in the rest of the world then?

Time and time again people forget that yes Labour did not tackle the bankers and they have been rightly condemned for that....... but the tories would have deregulated even more. In fact they were crying out for greater deregulation when in opposition!

Moby

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

The Deliberate Impoverishment Model for the economy may be dead in the water says The Guardian (a seventies model for a futuristic global economy?) Cameron & Osborne can flap about on the hook as much as they like, but at the end of the day their failure means there are no goodies in the sweetie bag on budget day (except for millionaires tax of course) and as the article says, at the end of the day ... there is always the ballot box and they are totally dependent on that for voter sentiment... oh dear http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/26/beppe-grillo-may-shake-european-system

The fact is people need hope otherwise whats the point?

Also lets for once acknowledge the hypocrisy of the tory. They are the privateers who believe in the market, who encouraged people to buy, buy, buy. They are the definition of capitalism..... consumerism, marketing, advertising.....shop keepers, businesses etc. THEY ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY.
Suddenly turning about and saying we can't spend money we don't have .....willl not wash.

There has always been this internal contradiction within tory ranks. On the one hand you have the corner shop economics of Thatcher's Dad's shop ....'you don't spend money you don't have', 'you repair the roof when the sun shines' and all that folksy nonsense and you also have the complete antithesis of that..... the city wheeler dealers taking so many risks with other peoples money......the very same people that fund the tory campaigns. These people wanted you to increase your debts and buy 'financial products' because they make their profits out of financing them. Why can't some people see this?:mad:
What is so galling is that many of these very same people are on here now crowing about how thrift and austerity is the way forward.....and by the way they have got a great financial product or mortgage deal to pawn on you!