Dog bite

suki1964

_Andy_ wrote: »

Nope, I don't relish it at all.

I just don't feel like an attitude of "the dog has been naughty so let's kill it" is appropriate or needed.

And that excuses name calling without proper discussion to back up your view?

So far I seen you call this poster a moron and someone else scum, just because their ideas don't match yours

Whereas I wouldn't personally call for the death penalty for a dog that's bitten ( although I have seriously thought about it when my own dog drew blood) I really do hope I'd have the manners and maturity to accept others ideas without resorting to name calling

_Andy_

suki1964 wrote: »

And that excuses name calling without proper discussion to back up your view?

So far I seen you call this poster a moron and someone else scum, just because their ideas don't match yours

Whereas I wouldn't personally call for the death penalty for a dog that's bitten ( although I have seriously thought about it when my own dog drew blood) I really do hope I'd have the manners and maturity to accept others ideas without resorting to name calling

I don't need to discuss it - someone who wants to kill a dog because they've been 'bad' is a moron.

And someone who will advertise a dog online 'who has to go today' who clearly has no morals and no qualms about it is scum.

suki1964

_Andy_ wrote: »

I don't need to discuss it - someone who wants to kill a dog because they've been 'bad' is a moron.

And someone who will advertise a dog online 'who has to go today' who clearly has no morals and no qualms about it is scum.

And how did the RSPCA respond?

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

I wonder - firstly, I think most large dogs would be very upset were a fully grown man to grab them to pick them up, even if it were affectionate rather than aggressive. Could the dog think he was being attacked? And how did the man concerned respond? With a little 'ow' or 'you ***** ****** ******* ******* **********' and a swift wallop?


And then, after having been, in his eyes, attacked once so he had to defend himself, the dog then gets attacked again by someone in the family, without warning, when he was minding his own business.


Neither human really sounds well placed to know how to handle an animal. I wonder, were you expected to punish the dog further when you got in as well?



I'd be inclined to want them to have as little to do with the dog as possible until they both understand how their actions caused the situation.

chucknorris

Funnily enough I picked my dog up last week for the first time in about 4 years (Lab/Springer cross 29kg) I normally weigh him by going upstairs and getting the bathroom scales to use with the downstairs scales and a piece of removable worktop from the kitchen, placing it between both sets of bathroom scales and ask him to sit on it. I thought I would just pick him up like I used to after weighing myself.

He treated it as a sort of a game with lots of tail wagging. If he had bitten me I would have assumed that I was at fault and the problem was me and/or he was in pain. There is no way that I would have thought that it was his fault. By the way he has never bitten me in the 7 years that we have had him, apart from accidently when playing with a stick (which was obviously my fault for being careless).

zaksmum

_Andy_ wrote: »

I don't need to discuss it - someone who wants to kill a dog because they've been 'bad' is a moron.

And someone who will advertise a dog online 'who has to go today' who clearly has no morals and no qualms about it is scum.

I would be seriously horrified if either of my dogs EVER bit anyone! It's not about killing a dog because it's been "bad".

It's having to realise that it may no longer be safe to keep the dog if the same thing could happen again.

If a dog savaged a child would the owner be a moron for saying he would have it PTS?

Person_one

zaksmum wrote: »

If a dog savaged a child

What does that scenario have to do with this one?

z.n

Setters can be a bit barmy. I have known a few and without exception they were all a bit mad and stressy so this incident could be a one off. Essentially, the dog might need everyone just to calm down and move more predictably round it. Can OP ensure this is possible?

But there could be less benign reasons as well.

Personally, I would be very wary of the dog if there is no obvious physical reason for the biting. An assessment by a dog behaviourist might throw some light on the situation. My dogs would not bite if I or any other human accidentally tripped over them, trod on their tails, knocked their heads opening the door or many of the myriad of other incidents that have happened over the years. I might get a yelp or a moan but that's it- and that is how it should be. I could pick my very nervy GSD up and trip and drop her without getting bitten.

A dog that bites on being hauled outside is one that will probably bite when an accident happens due to dominance or fear. Walking about round it on eggshells could be the worst thing and place OP wife at greater risk. Or failing to resolve current levels of mistrust might see the fear increase. eg if it thinks it is higher in pecking order than Op's son or OP wife you have problems when OP is not around, or if there is fear in OP wife coming near to dog then dog will respond defensively. Pretending three bites is a blip is IMO irresponsible.

zaksmum

Person_one wrote: »

What does that scenario have to do with this one?

Andy stated someone who wants to kill a dog because it's been "bad" - in this case, biting two members of it's own family - is a moron.

I am pointing out that this is not always the case, for example, if the dog savages a child.

grazzzz

zaksmum wrote: »

Andy stated someone who wants to kill a dog because it's been "bad" - in this case, biting two members of it's own family - is a moron.

I am pointing out that this is not always the case, for example, if the dog savages a child.

Max and the rest of the family are acting normally we are aware of what has happened the circumstances were extraordinary to say the least and we have all learnt from it .He was clearly stressed by being manhandled and lifted off the ground an unnatural experience to find himself in and he may have been in pain as a 9 year old dog a setter at that could have the start of hip problems.
I have never blamed the dog even though some of you think thats wrong . He is a placid loving setter who enjoys the company of us all, i did blame my son and wife who after reading the comments on here understand they were both in the wrong !
As for attacking a child there isnt one in the house nor will there be one he has ample place to excercise in the woods at the back off my house which is my property and if taken in to a public place he is on a lead and i am his handler
Everyone is entitled to there opinion however thats what i like about this site thank you all for your advice
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