Reasons to give for leaving early..

Idiophreak

cashbackproblems wrote: »

the reason for this is as i left this job off my cv thus they think i am immediately available!

...and presumably, when they asked "when are you available to start?" you said..?

Funky_Bold_Ribena

Evilm wrote: »

Who cares? They aren't likely to go looking to do one without being asked unless you've got a really vindictive boss.

The upshot is that lying is bad. Being honest is better - and there is no reason to lie in this situation.

Why the OP decided to leave them off their CV sent to the new employer is largely beside the point.

There is a user on here whose boss called up the new employer and gave a reference [a bad one] that wasn't even asked for. So yes, the OP should be careful of what they tell their current employer.

As it also signals to the new employer that the OP lied...which can give them a bad feeling about the OP.

Evilm

Funky_Bold_Ribena wrote: »

There is a user on here whose boss called up the new employer and gave a reference [a bad one] that wasn't even asked for. So yes, the OP should be careful of what they tell their current employer.

As it also signals to the new employer that the OP lied...which can give them a bad feeling about the OP.

Yes, IF the old employer goes looking to do this - I was thinking of that case when I posted my last post. The likelyhood is low however. If asked why the new employer hasn't taken a reference from them OP doesn't have to answer beyond "I don't know".

OP can't undo missing this employer off her CV that she sent to the new job. Inventing more excuses such as an operation etc. is silly when most employers won't even question why they haven't been approached for a reference!

EDITED to add: OP is also a temp - its run of the mill to see temps leaving without decent notice. Its not great but its the nature of temp work that people do leave at short notice if they find other work. The reference request should go to the agency if they wanted to do one anyway.

McKneff

~Are you 100% sure its a two week notice period.

Normally a week or a month, that's why I ask.

Dont tell your new boss or colleagues where you are going. You never know, some people can be just plain nasty.

cashbackproblems

Ok well i did the deed and it went ok, manager was actually happy for me!!

I only left it off as i have been here a short time and didnt want to answer the question "why are you leaving already", how would they know to request a reference which isnt on your CV?! Evilm is spot on.

It is 2 weeks notice as per contract, but tbh I think they had forgotten this, no one mentioned the 2 weeks and assumed it was one..not even HR!!

Funky_Bold_Ribena

cashbackproblems wrote: »

Ok well i did the deed and it went ok, manager was actually happy for me!!

I only left it off as i have been here a short time and didnt want to answer the question "why are you leaving already", how would they know to request a reference which isnt on your CV?! Evilm is spot on.

It is 2 weeks notice as per contract, but tbh I think they had forgotten this, no one mentioned the 2 weeks and assumed it was one..not even HR!!

No, you are misreading the comment. It would be your old employer that contacts your new employer...wondering why a reference hasn't been requested. As evidenced by another user on here.

cashbackproblems

Funky_Bold_Ribena wrote: »

No, you are misreading the comment. It would be your old employer that contacts your new employer...wondering why a reference hasn't been requested. As evidenced by another user on here.

why the hell would they do that?! In large organisations this stuff is done by HR some in different locations, so people dont get involved. In fact no one apart from HR is allowed to give refs and even they just confirm dates and titles.

Idiophreak

cashbackproblems wrote: »

why the hell would they do that?!

Seconded...Even if your employer thought about/noticed the fact your new employer hadn't asked for a reference, which is unlikely...what would they care!?

If I were applying for a new job and they asked for references, I'd give them contacts from previous employment anyway...So my employer only finds out I'm leaving when it's a 100% done deal...I thought that was pretty standard. As far as I can see, although is happens (as above), your current employer feeling compelled to volunteer a reference is *extremely* unlikely - and potentially opens them up to so much liability, they'd be nuts to do it.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

cashbackproblems wrote: »

why the hell would they do that?! In large organisations this stuff is done by HR some in different locations, so people dont get involved. In fact no one apart from HR is allowed to give refs and even they just confirm dates and titles.

I don't know - I don't know every manager in the country.

I was just pointing out that it has happened so if you lie to one employer you might get found out by the other one.

anamenottaken

Idiophreak wrote: »

Seconded...Even if your employer thought about/noticed the fact your new employer hadn't asked for a reference, which is unlikely...what would they care!?

If I were applying for a new job and they asked for references, I'd give them contacts from previous employment anyway...So my employer only finds out I'm leaving when it's a 100% done deal...I thought that was pretty standard. As far as I can see, although is happens (as above), your current employer feeling compelled to volunteer a reference is *extremely* unlikely - and potentially opens them up to so much liability, they'd be nuts to do it.

Most recruiters will want reference from current employer but will agree not to make the request to the employer until the job has been offered and accepted.

You are then left with the "done deal" which is an accepted offer but almost always that will be "subject to the receipt of satisfactory references". That is satisfactory to the recruiter. You can never be sure of what they may take exception to so you don't actually resign until the offer is unconditional.