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So Who Is Responsible for Getting Bread Into the Supermarket?

There's a story about a visit by a senior Soviet Union official to the USA during the Cold War. He was taken to a supermarket and asked what, to him, was a perfectly reasonable question upon seeing shelves full of food in a way that would have been unimaginable to a normal USSR consumer at the time:

"Who is responsible for ensuring the supermarket has bread to sell?"

IMHO, the shelves are full because nobody has that responsibility. Someone grows wheat, another mills it, yet another sells the flour and makes the yeast and makes the bread and makes the plastic bags it goes in and drives the lorries and chicks the checkouts...........................

So who is responsible for making petrol the right price?
So who is responsible for making the right number of houses at a right price?
So who is responsible for making the price of money right?
So who is responsible for you getting a job, educating your kids, caring for you, providing you with health care.....?

Do you want to take responsibility for yourself or hope that the man in Moscow can get bread to your local supermarket?
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  • Generali wrote: »
    There's a story about a visit by a senior Soviet Union official to the USA during the Cold War. He was taken to a supermarket and asked what, to him, was a perfectly reasonable question upon seeing shelves full of food in a way that would have been unimaginable to a normal USSR consumer at the time:

    "Who is responsible for ensuring the supermarket has bread to sell?"

    IMHO, the shelves are full because nobody has that responsibility. Someone grows wheat, another mills it, yet another sells the flour and makes the yeast and makes the bread and makes the plastic bags it goes in and drives the lorries and chicks the checkouts...........................

    So who is responsible for making petrol the right price?
    So who is responsible for making the right number of houses at a right price?
    So who is responsible for making the price of money right?
    So who is responsible for you getting a job, educating your kids, caring for you, providing you with health care.....?

    Do you want to take responsibility for yourself or hope that the man in Moscow can get bread to your local supermarket?

    I hope many read this and understand the message
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    One of the problems we face is that in these days of personality over substance, our politicians like to pretend that they have all the answers, and those taken in by the hype tend to believe them.
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • toby3000
    toby3000 Posts: 316 Forumite
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    Ignoring the substantial subsidies paid to farmers on both sides of the Atlantic, I don't really think that provision of services is comparable to the food industry.

    The housing market isn't a free market anyway, due to planning laws.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    And who will responsible for knocking down The Tower of London and building some nice flats overlooking the river icon9.gif There are two sides to that coin Gen :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Bumped so people can consider the OP's important message
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    TBH I was a little surprised there wasn't more debate here.

    Lots of people seem to want the Govt to intervene in house prices or rents or food or fuel prices.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    TBH I was a little surprised there wasn't more debate here.

    Lots of people seem to want the Govt to intervene in house prices or rents or food or fuel prices.

    The Nanny state Generali. People can longer think for themselves. Just expect DC and GO to come up with a solution.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The Nanny state Generali. People can longer think for themselves. Just expect DC and GO to come up with a solution.


    As politicians are part of the problem and help create them not surprising they can't fire the catalyst for others.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Too many people just don't want to take responsibility for themselves and when this leads to an entirely predictable poor outcome they have to find someone to blame.

    I tend to find that people who moan most about government intervention are the same that moan the loudest about the lack of government intervention too. In their minds they must think blaming other people is the equivalent of doing something
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 15 March 2013 at 4:08PM
    Generali wrote: »
    TBH I was a little surprised there wasn't more debate here.

    Lots of people seem to want the Govt to intervene in house prices or rents or food or fuel prices.

    The problem with food, fuel and energy prices is that the government have intervened to make things more difficult for those you say should sort themselves out.

    Many of those that have sought to make their own way without government intervention are being shafted by their intervention.

    Their intervention also means my council tax isn't increasing this year either.:T
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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