DM Proforma - Not entitled to Personal Independence Payment

Richie-from-the-Boro

To be entitled to Personal Independence Payment you must have satisfied the disability conditions for three months and then be expected to satisfy them for another nine months from the date any award could start. Therefore you must need help for at least twelve months. Your needs are likely to reduce so you won't satisfy the disability conditions within the period specified above. Because of this you're not entitled to Personal Independence Payment.

nannytone_2

i really dont thin many people will claim DLA for a temporary problem.

it isnt that vastly different from how it is now... 9 months as opposed to 6 months

speedyturtle

I think the government should stop this drama and stop the pip and disabled benefits and just keep one benefit and they would save alot of money cause it seems like that is what they want.

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nannytone wrote: »

i really dont thin many people will claim DLA for a temporary problem.

it isnt that vastly different from how it is now... 9 months as opposed to 6 months

its now 3+6 and will become 3+9,so quite a difference

Richie-from-the-Boro

- woods & trees folks
- its a whole document
- read the document I posted .. .. not just the snippet I posted

It indicates that the DWP have already worked out how in advance to say no and refuse your claim for PIP. It says you can't go straight to an independent tribunal but now must wait as long as it takes until they look at the decision again, only then can you go to trib and join the backlog cue with the other 2.6 million IB claims 'parked' in the appeals system.

Woods & trees folks, its a whole document, read the document I posted .. .. not just the snippet I posted.

speedfreek1000

If you don’t contact us within one month and we can change the decision, we may only be able to change the decision from the date you contact us.

Not at all confusing as this seams to indicated that you will only receive payment from the date you contact them rather than the date of the claim.

I can also see a lot of our handbook of medical conditions plus the shoddy assessment prognosis date as with ESA will automatically disqualify most people.

I can't wait for this one as anything you do to try and get yourself better will be taken down, twisted and used as evidence against you.

nannytone_2

i'm really not sure of my opinion on this one.

i almost want it to hurry up and happen, so u can find out what i need to do to manage my finances ... it;s seriously starting to stress me out.
and on the other hand, i'm pretty sure that i will be one of the many losers, so the longer it takes, the better!

what i find most concerning is that people with different disabilities are turning on each other, rather than sticking together.

esrlier in a thread on the bedroom tax, a prolific poster, who considers she is entitled to every penny she gets for her disability, said she founf it hard to believe that i get as much direct payment funding, as the DWP consider my disability ( blindness) to be a minimal disabilty!

i am afraid that i did retailiate and say that should they take the same view with her, as once in her power chair she is mobile?

i dont like myself for retaliating in this way, but i couldnt believe how one person could make light of anothers struggles.

no wonder we are being walked all over... when we cant even depend on other equally poorly treated to back us up!


sorry for the rant!

Richie-from-the-Boro

nannytone wrote: »

I'm really not sure of my opinion on this one.

I almost want it to hurry up and happen, so u can find out what i need to do to manage my finances ... it's seriously starting to stress me out.
and on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that I will be one of the many losers, so the longer it takes, the better!

what I find most concerning is that people with different disabilities are turning on each other, rather than sticking together.

earlier in a thread on the bedroom tax, a prolific poster, who considers she is entitled to every penny she gets for her disability, said she found it hard to believe that I get as much direct payment funding, as the DWP consider my disability ( blindness) to be a minimal disability!

I am afraid that I did retaliate and say that should they take the same view with her, as once in her power chair she is mobile?

I don't like myself for retaliating in this way, but I couldn't believe how one person could make light of another's struggles.

no wonder we are being walked all over... when we cant even depend on other equally poorly treated to back us up!

sorry for the rant!

Every single person in receipt of DLA of any flavour is disabled. No single individual in receipt of DLA is not disabled.

Nowt wrong with the odd rant Nanny, people, even on this board have sometimes claimed the 'my disability is worse than your disability card' or the 'my disability is worth more money than you disability card' or the 'my disability is more painful than you disability card'. You used to be able to count the incidents per week just a few short years ago, these days thankfully not so often, you can only count the incidents per year.

PIP & UC will phreak people out, its the unknown, and even if it was the known it would still phreak people out.

Still each of us both individually and collectively are better for knowing information that allows preparing and planning than not knowing at all. I agree the disabled should act together, stay together and protect each other as best they can, every group in the history of mankind functions better if it sticks together. Others should remember these words - don't let the sods divide & conquer, stick together as a disabled community - you may be separated by geographic miles and different disability definitions, but you are all disabled and therefore part of the one family, the one kin, the one community, regardless of which type of disability or what level of any particular disability.

nannytone_2

it seems that those disabled people that have worked in the past, or had working partners and have managed to buy homes and fund pensions are looking down on those that have been unable to provide for their own future.

someone who owns their house outright ( yes they have paid for it ... but they dont seem to realise that they were fortunate to be able to do that) has a state pension and a decent private pension. plus their DLA entitlement.... and good on them


but when they say to people like me ....
sorry that there are no 1 bed properties, rent pribately or pay up!
or
use your DLA to pay, thats what its for!

no that isnt what its for! its to pay for additional help i need to ne able to function in the same bloody world as others and not sit at home alone all day every day with just the telly for company!

they are so certain of their entitlement to PIP, that they say it will weed out thos who dont have 'proper' disabilities!

they dont seem to realise that this is our life, and will only be happy when we are lowered to the poinbt where we can only afford to eat every other day and have to use a candle for lighting because we cant afford the electricity bill!


sorry again .... i'm still on one

Richie-from-the-Boro

DLA and to that extent AA is to pay for additional care & mobilty needs only. its non-contributory, non-means tested, tax-free contribution and paid whether a person is in employment or not, its paid as a contribution to the already extra costs severely disabled people have to bear compared to the non-disabled costs. How you use it is not important, its certainly not in my opinion to be be used for additional bedroom tax or howsoever they want to describe taking money away from old ill and disabled people.

nannytone_2

but the bigger problem from my point of view is that other disabled people, who are in a better financial position are AGREEING with it!

at leasy we know this government is our enemy.... but having to realise that other disabled people are all too willing to put the boot in too is a step too far


just to add... another unaffected disabled person said the bedroom tax should be paid from DLA because it is an additional cost .... because not everyone needs to pay it!
when i pointed out it wasnt a cost because i was disabled, but because i have an extra room they stated i should move then because it is an avoidable cost ...

they didnt say where they thought i should move to though.
there isnt only no suitable properties where i live ... there are ZERO ome bed properties