Pay Rise not honored?

Hey all,

Husband asked for payrise in writing and it was verbally agreed by Managing Director. At the begining of the month, it was also agreed that it would be dated from the start of this pay period.

Today (Pay day Friday) MD has come to husband in work and said that his wife (she is part of same company) has not agreed to payrise and instead of getting a £1.80 rise it is now £1.

The verbal agreement was heard by a few members of staff and had been discussed with office staff.

What can my husband do about it - it's not a whopping amount but it's left him £200 worse off this month alone.

Does he raise a greviance? Or write a letter? Any help really really appreciated.

TY in advance
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  • How long has he been working there? He can try enforcing the agreement, but expect the employer to find petty excuses to sack him if he becomes a trouble maker.
  • lolly_896
    lolly_896 Posts: 1,058 Forumite
    Checkmate wrote: »
    How long has he been working there? He can try enforcing the agreement, but expect the employer to find petty excuses to sack him if he becomes a trouble maker.

    He has been there 6 years in July. He is far from a trouble maker, and has never had even a verbal warning. Always punctual, never sick. (Had a week off 3 years ago following the death of his mother).

    ETA - how would he go about enforcing the agreement?
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  • yvonne13_2
    yvonne13_2 Posts: 1,955 Forumite
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    OP how is he worse off when he never received the money in the first place?

    Do you mean he spent the money in his head?
    It's better to regret something I did do than to regret something that I didn’t. :EasterBun
  • lolly_896
    lolly_896 Posts: 1,058 Forumite
    yvonne13 wrote: »
    OP how is he worse off when he never received the money in the first place?

    Do you mean he spent the money in his head?

    Sorry yes, he hadn't spent it in his head - It was destined to be saved
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  • I'd be looking for a new job.
  • lolly_896
    lolly_896 Posts: 1,058 Forumite
    He is looking for a new job, although he was pretty happy here until tonight!
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  • lolly_896
    lolly_896 Posts: 1,058 Forumite
    edited 21 February 2013 at 10:50AM
    Anybody have some advise today? - I'm not sure weather he needs to raise a grievance? or do something else

    ETA - I did the maths wrong - He was on £7.70 Asked for £9.00 and they have given him £8.20
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  • Maybe he could push for a compromise agreement of £8.50?
  • zzzLazyDaisy
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    It depends how far he wants to take it. He can raise a grievance, but if this is a small husband and wife business, realistically he is not going to get very far.

    If he is unsuccessful in his grievance, he can make a claim to an employment tribunal for unlawful deduction from wages. But it would be up to him to prove that he has a contractual right to the higher hourly rate. Since this was discussed but never confirmed in writing or followed through, he will have an uphill task convincing a tribunal that the payrise discussions had progressed as far as being incorporated into his terms and conditions.

    In any event, realistically, all this will make him unpopular with the employer, and is likely to lead to the working relationship becoming very uncomfortable.

    I suggest that he accepts the payrise that he is now being offered (on the grounds that he could lose even that if he makes waves), and that he looks for another job in the meantime.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • terra_ferma
    terra_ferma Posts: 5,484 Forumite
    edited 21 February 2013 at 8:51PM
    lolly_896 wrote: »
    Hey all,

    Husband asked for payrise in writing and it was verbally agreed by Managing Director. At the begining of the month, it was also agreed that it would be dated from the start of this pay period.

    Today (Pay day Friday) MD has come to husband in work and said that his wife (she is part of same company) has not agreed to payrise and instead of getting a £1.80 rise it is now £1.

    The verbal agreement was heard by a few members of staff and had been discussed with office staff.

    What can my husband do about it - it's not a whopping amount but it's left him £200 worse off this month alone.

    Does he raise a greviance? Or write a letter? Any help really really appreciated.

    TY in advance

    I wouldn't count on other members of staff agreeing to be witnesses. I've seen a situation when a member of staff made a grievance against their manager for something he said at a meeting, and when interviewed 50% of the team lied saying he'd never said that.
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